Topic: Amethyst cased and cut glass jug

[flying free]

I don't think they are acanthus leaves either.

I think they're kind of like Myosotis leaves (perhaps supposed to represent Myosotis leaves?)  and in the French enamelled 1820s glass that was indeed  what they were along with little forget-me nots.  Also in Bohemian glass a similar motif in that period.

https://plantatlas.brc.ac.uk/plant/myosotis-scorpioides

But I still don't think that puts your jug that early.  Difficult one.
Perhaps it is later 1800s whilst the transition from top down to bottom up handles was still going on, and when amethyst colouring could be bought to use? 
The rim is very unusual as well. Is it cut into those scalloped shapes?  All that cutting does look as though it could be Bohemian.

Just thinking of other possible makers you could look into that aren't Bohemian:
St Louis
Baccarat
Val St Lambert
American?  - I know nothing about American makers at all.

[flying free]

amethyst cut to clear brings quite a few items up.

This item is labelled Beyer - has a similar base and colour? :
https://www.bonanza.com/items/like/730986082/clear-crystal-vase


same vase here on ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224937760919?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=224937760919&targetid=293946777986&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9045619&poi=&campaignid=17116423086&mkgroupid=134652533165&rlsatarget=pla-293946777986&abcId=9300856&merchantid=137623154&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmouZBhDSARIsALYcouriEsl-qOecO14Uo499CdrkgjoR251Jwt2vmn_NS20hx8MuozrX--waAlnoEALw_wcB

I don't know anything of the history of Beyer sorry.
Was just wondering if perhaps yours was a very early piece of their cased glass perhaps?  But unsure if the handle might rule that out.

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I've randomly clicked on many of the German makers here but the handle is different to those I've looked at (bottom up handles):
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Deutschland.10.0.html

however it might be worth trawling through perhaps?

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Thanks again for you thoughts everyone ,I’ll keep looking .

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Small amount of 1951 information from 'Foreign Commerce Weekly Volume 44-45' 1951  on page 7
about Beyer&Co Neustadt

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=waEeAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA20-PA7&lpg=RA20-PA7&dq=Beyer%26co+neustadt&source=bl&ots=ITP14WjH1y&sig=ACfU3U0EDnfoBWRBVZf8KjsNd2nef4gV3Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiozcjN45j6AhWHXcAKHXLMC-wQ6AF6BAgZEAM#v=onepage&q=Beyer%26co%20neustadt&f=false

Not sure if your jug can be related to that vase because of the intricate cutting on the rim and the handle application, which might indicate a much earlier production.  However the large polished pontil mark is the same finish and then it's also amethyst and quite chunky cut to clear.

[NevB]

It has similarities to ones made by Webb and Corbett shown here.

 https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Webb-Corbett-1910.358+B6YmFja1BJRD0zNTgmcHJvZHVjdElEPTE0MzkzJnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTM1OCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

Curiously the No.10760 appears to have a top down handle

[flying free]

It does.  That might give the shape a better date time frame maybe?  That jug does indeed look as though it's been given a top down handle application.

Unfortunately, that rim isn't on any of those items and it's specifically cut in that scalloped shape.

Whether it turns out to be or not, I'm curious as to who Beyer were.  There's very little info on them to be searched.

[Ekimp]

The Webb Corbett link is interesting. So out of ten jugs shown from as late as 1910 and one still has a top down handle!

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Webb Corbett looks promising on the strong cuts side of things , difficult to tell but the bases maybe cut as well ?the cutting on this seems pretty sharpish and I wonder if Webb Corbett acid dipped to polish the cutting (may have miss remembered that?,Paul used to mention it as a way of dating cut glass )The handle on mine also seems a bit oversized ?..Having said all that I’ll look in that direction aswell .

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Sorry I should of added the cutting lines are fairly obvious to the naked eye.