Topic: Ruby Glass Novelty "Oak Barrel" jug Imperial 1/2 Gill Measure

[flying free]

btw Korbel (name of the article in the museum link) means tankard

[flying free]

A lid like this I mean - but shaped to fit the design of the cut rim (I've seen standard jugs with a shaped lid with flip handle).
https://www.antik-sterzinger.cz/skleneny-korbel-z-19-stoleti/

[LEGSY]

 
Unbelievable how some people have such an analytical data driven brain sadly mine chugs along
but i am so appreciative at the long replies given and the link from Flying Free is very interesting
to me. I could imagine the idea of a Lady sat with friends drinking a strong alcohol from one of these
would be quite funny, I'm really happy i bought it now i was in an antiques center and saw it with a £3
price tag and just couldn't leave it as i love smaller glassware pieces of no particular maker just interesting
things of good age so this will be enjoyed for a while.

[Greg.]

Hi M & Dan,

I managed to take a handful of photos of the small tankard I mentioned earlier in the thread. Apologies, the example that I saw was actually a ruby example and not blue, however, there is more decoration present on the body which is interesting to see. The top rim has also been gilded. Apologies for the quality of the photos, hope they are of interest, sadly the tankard had minor damage.

[flying free]

Thank you Greg.
Interesting that it shows clear on the base I think?  If so ruby cased over clear but very thinly and the base polished right through the ruby.
The decoration is interesting and looks Bohemian to me.  Difficult to tell if it's gilded decoration or enamelled with gilding over it on the body?

m

[Greg.]

Hi M,

The base I think was just ruby and had a very shallow concave pontil mark, which makes the colour look less deep. The photos aren't great, apologies.

I'm not 100% sure about the decoration, from memory I think it was slightly raised, which would suggested also enamelled. I will try and take another look next time I visit, just to double check.

[LEGSY]

Superb thread of information i am still fairly interested in the fact that the top band is right on a 1/2 Gill
in measures of Whisky but i guess this maybe a convenient coincidence that maybe made great use of in
the future cold snaps

[flying free]

Hi M,

The base I think was just ruby and had a very shallow concave pontil mark, which makes the colour look less deep. The photos aren't great, apologies.

I'm not 100% sure about the decoration, from memory I think it was slightly raised, which would suggested also enamelled. I will try and take another look next time I visit, just to double check.

Thanks Greg. I also think it looks to me like enamelled decoration in cream with flat gilding. This style of decoration and the design motif I think are Bohemian and I'd put it c.1840/50, it reminds me of a uranium glass perfume bottle I have.  That bottle was I think attributed to North Bohemian and c. 1840s. 

(That said, there is always the caveat  that techniques and styles in Bohemian glass persist for lengthy periods)

Still, the enamelling technique, the design and the cut rim point to Bohemian and that period in my opinion.


Legsy I don't know what measurements they were using on the continent in the 1840s.  How many centilitres does it hold?  or millilitres?

Alcohol was far stronger then so perhaps it could be that smaller measures were required for whatever use it might have had.

m

[Greg.]

Just to confirm, the base on the example I encountered was definitely ruby. The gilding looks to also have been applied over the enamelling.

[flying free]

Thank you for checking Greg. That's good detail to know.

That makes 4 and I think Ivo mentioned in the depths of my memory that he had something similar so that would make 5.  Not many around really. The museum seems to only have the one and I've not spotted another in my many museum collection online searches.

Legsy thank you for the extra bigger pictures - they're fabulous.  The detailed cutting on the rim can be seen so clearly.  Beautifully cut piece.
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,72478.msg403245.html#msg403245

m