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Author Topic: Sand cast obelisk ID help  (Read 1052 times)

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2023, 07:20:08 PM »
That is a newer piece. One which I think really shows the Vallein input.  ;D
The Strathearn Gallery which sold it, is just up the road from the Caithness Visitor Centre in the same village.
At the visitor centre, they do have an archive of old stock which they bring out and put on sale in limited amounts. It tends to be the rather more expensive serious limited edition works.

I have been studying the wording of the email from Dartington posted by Heart of Sklo.

This is it, for reference.
"The piece below is actually from Dartington Crystal, and sold under the now discontinued 'Innovate' range, which was manufactured in China and then imported to the UK. Sarah Peterson, who designs the Sandcast ranges was, at the time, employed and based at Dartington Crystal and developed this range, hence the similarity to the Caithness sandcasts which we now sell. Dartington bought Caithness in 2006, and it was at this point that Sarah moved back up to Scotland and started to manufacturer the items in their current form."

It is quite feasible from that wording, that they were only referring to the Innovate range which was made in China and then imported. Not the piece itself.
And if Sarah P was working at Dartington she could have made them there. It does say the piece is from Dartington Crystal AND sold under thae innovate name.

It's not actually clear.
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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2023, 07:24:45 PM »

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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2023, 10:15:58 PM »
I'll pop SP an email, hopefully we'll get a more definite answer on when and where the sandcasts were made.
 Thanks for the article above, a quick google of Sarah's Attic found the website  :)
https://www.sarahpetersondesign.com/

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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2023, 10:10:16 AM »
Sarah's talent and artistry are not under question, but it's a bit disturbing seeing her embarking on another career away from glass.
What are the implications for Caithness if she's not there?  ???
She's able to design and produce the high end work herself, but she can design really effective and good simpler things that everybody can make for the bread and butter stuff.
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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2023, 03:53:32 PM »
I've had info back on the obelisk.  Design is by Sarah Peterson, the piece was made in China. I am assuming from the info from Sue that this would have been under the Dartington Innovate name in the early 2000's.

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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2023, 04:19:14 PM »
I want to know now, if they had special arrangements as to how the casts were to be produced and with better quality cullet than is normally found in work from there. My big Innovate vase is very poor quality work.
China is very big and we really don't know much about who is doing what where.
I am very surprised. But it is good to find out what really did happen in the end. :)
I do apologise for my suspicions.  :-[
The difference in quality between the casts and my Innovate vase was something I found very concerning. ::)
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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2023, 06:17:04 PM »
That comment from Dartington could be interpreted in different ways so it’s good to get it confirmed. Nice of Sarah to reply so soon. The obelisk reminded me of Troika pottery.

….so does this topic belong in British glass or Chinese glass? ;D
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Re: Sand cast obelisk ID help
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2023, 06:26:49 PM »
 ;D I refuse to speculate.
I have done more than enough of that here already.  ;)
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