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Author Topic: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??  (Read 791 times)

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Offline bat20

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Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« on: December 30, 2023, 10:40:53 AM »
Here’s another  online purchase which I didn’t dare to believe could be what I thought it could be ! ,but it’s arrived this morning and I’m fairly certain it’s Powell glass circa 1900.It’s 5.5” in height and mould blown.I’ve posted many times before hoping for a Powell conformation, but I really can’t think who else this could be …let me down easy !!thanks .

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2023, 06:06:22 AM »
Just adding a couple more images , there is very subtle vertical ribs you can just make out .

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2023, 10:24:16 AM »
I would say not. All the Powell blue opal I've seen was much more delicate and ethereal than this. Is is lead crystal? A fair number of companies made opalescent glass...

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2023, 12:27:30 PM »
The neck is the thickest part and it’s not a heavy piece,the base is very even and thin and the body colour seems very right ?,Has anyone got any examples of other similar pieces from other companies as that would be really helpful and I’m having a bit of a fruitless search , apart from Walsh.I did find this on the V&A site ..probably earlier than this one though .


https://framemark.vam.ac.uk/collections/2006AT5383/full/1400,/0/default.jpg

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2023, 02:03:47 PM »
I’ve found another whitefriars jug that’s not particularly ethereal but in the straw version.Ninth piece down.

http://www.lovedecanters.co.uk/LDWhitePre1900.html

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2023, 03:27:08 PM »
But look at the blue opal pieces... Quite different to yours colourwise for a start. The problem with a lot of English glass is that it is so poorly documented, so many companies came and went, and so much paperwork was thrown away or lost in the war. And nobody even mentions most Scottish glass

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2023, 03:30:17 PM »
I would question the handle of your jug, it says not to me, squared off like that feels like the wrong style and it looks like clear glass unlike the body. The shape of the jug does not fit to my eye either. Is that a bit of iridescence around the neck too?

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2023, 03:56:02 PM »
No iredescence that’s the light,the jug in the last example has a green handle which again is different from the main body..(if I argue for the defence we’ll get a better balance ) The Roman style handle is something they did ,but I know this one is a bit more Loetz than Powell.The sea green is spot on for me and I’ve been here before looking at greens from other companies….could there have been a crossover period between styles ?It is well made and leaded , would we not see more examples like this cropping up more regularly let alone lost paperwork .?

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2023, 05:31:55 PM »
But blue opal and sea green are different colours

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Re: Powell opalescent blue vase !!??
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2023, 06:05:20 PM »
I used to get opal effects on green ash glazes in wood fired kilns,something to do with the fly ash landing on the pots . I don’t know if the chemistry is the same with glass making ?,but I suspect something is added and the effects are very random .

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