Topic: Early pressed glass goblet

[bat20]

Hi , I’ve searched the French pressed glass site (1840) without finding this particular glass and I wonder if it’s English from the same sort of period.It’s 8cm wd and 13 ht and made with a good quality metal,it’s also the first glass I’ve found with a small square polished pontil ??..It’s also a fairly weighty piece …any thoughts many thanks .

[neilh]

I haven't seen that one before. I think it unlikely to be early English. Certainly all the early tumblers are incredibly dull variations of flutes. I would be surprised therefore if there was an outbreak of design bravery on the early goblets.

[bat20]

Thank you Neil , a calming steer in the right direction as usual , would you agree on the dating ?

[neilh]

The foot and pattern are unfamiliar. The clear rim above the pattern is similar to various goblets shown in Launay Hautin (1840). I've not read anything on c1840s European pressed glass goblets but it could be from that era.

[NevB]

There is one the same on this very long link, website not available, attribution not guaranteed.


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[bat20]

Thanks Nev,I’m inclined to agree with Neil on this one and look across the channel.I guess starting from the earliest date it could be. It’s heavy ,leaded and a bright metal with a foot wider than the rim , so lots to be getting on with .

[flying free]

Caveat that I know absolutely nothing about this kind of glass, but just musing is it possible it could be Belgian?

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[bat20]

Could be m ?,it’s all a bit up in the air at the moment .I’ve read that in the UK leaded glass was used for early pressed glass and this seemed to cause problems so they used an unleaded glass,I’m trying to find information about continental pressed glass, St Louis added lead to their normal batch before the date this goblet could have possibly been made.The sand used must have been fairly free of many contaminates because it’s a bright glass.

[cagney]

  Looks like a square extension from the mold, originally protruding more and ground down. For what purpose? From a technological point totally unnecessary. Unless, What? More questions, photo #2 Stem is that a meandering mold line or striation? I have a working theory, no answers. Follow the mold lines. Whats going on there?
  Very French in some aspects I think.

[bat20]

Thanks for pointing the mould lines out Cagney , i over looked that and thought they were creases , but 
no !,they are the seam lines that meander off when reaching the stem,interesting .