Topic: Early pressed glass goblet

[bat20]

Do you think it may have been made in two parts ?

[cagney]

  The possibility may exist. If the mold line from the bowl of the goblet is drastically off set from the mold line from the stem/base [a 1/4 turn or more?] maybe. If your lucky you may see some tooling marks on the upper stem. At the least I think the upper stem to bowl area put to the fire more than usual. This was a difficult area to get exposed without reheating the bowl too much. The punty rod being a conductor of heat you risk the piece dropping off the rod if heated too much at the attachment point. The punty rod attached to an extension from the base makes this task much easier. Also, a well at the base of the mold would act as a release point if the amount of glass dropped into the mold was a bit much [overfill]. In the early period of pressing "eyeballing" the right amount took some experience.

  Similar article to size and period. A quite small compote [13cm dia.X 10.75cm tall] made in a more conventional manner. Two separate pressed pieces attached with a wafer, which was then tooled [shaped]. an applied and shaped ring on the stem. Rough snapped pontil on base. Lead glass, probably Belgian. Bowl with a noticeable overfill.

[bat20]

Very interesting ,thanks for the info .It has got a slight lean ?The rim seems well worked and flattish but not sharp and a bit bumpy if you run your thumb and fore finger around it .I’m really not sure but I’m wondering if this could be an example of French press moulding a few years before 1840 ? Maybe feeling their way with the process ??

[cagney]

   I have not seen this concept  [extension] before. The theory is the only technical reason I could think of. Seems to be an outlier of sorts. Other examples would be incredibly informative I think. The possibility of other pieces from the same mold intriguing. On that day was the grinder/polisher a bit lazy? Are other examples from the same mold out there with conventional polished pontils i.e. the extension ground further Into the base. As usual more questions than answers.

[Ekimp]

On that day was the grinder/polisher a bit lazy? Are other examples from the same mold out there with conventional polished pontils i.e. the extension ground further Into the base.

If they had ground away the square any further, they would have obliterated the impressed pattern. I think you can already see where the tool used to grind the square has started to grind away the tops of the surrounding pattern. There would be no point in having the impressed pattern on the bottom if it was to be ground away.

[flying free]

The pattern on it reminds me of some tumblers I've seen attributed to Val St Lambert hence my question.  However on a quick search (not in depth admittedly) I couldn't see anything else to compare.

[bat20]

I thought I’d put up a few more images ,it looks to me the base isn’t central even taking into account the swirls .