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Author Topic: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier  (Read 626 times)

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2024, 05:58:44 PM »
Definitely late 19th C and Bohemian. In that style (both glass and decor) and with those numeric markings Harrach is highly likely. The decor is all enamelling. Moser seems unlikely to me. I suspect the pair you show are not Moser either.


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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2024, 08:19:59 PM »
Th emystery path gets longer - its exciting really

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Below is the statement of our glass expert: The vases in the photos are not Moser glassware products.
The vases are made of refined opal enamel by painting.
The Moser glass factory did not and does not produce such products.
In my opinion, if they are made in the Czech Republic, they could be products of glassworks in Nový Bor.

With best regards   Lucie Duchková
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MOSER, a.s.
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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2024, 11:16:25 PM »
There are a number of vases in the Harrach book 'From Neuwelt to the Whole World' Mergl J. 2012 which have a gold band device with little white dots around it.  Those I've spotted easily seem to date to c.1876/7 (pages245 and 225 for examples). 

In addition there is a vase plate 274 page245 which is a Beinglas vase (looks much whiter than yours in the photograph not cream, though it is described as ' Lightly yellow-toned opaque glass, mould blown'. 
It has a  similar gold band with white dots device around the rim and also has what to my eye looks to be similar enamelling style, large- leaf flora quite 'loose and splashy' for want of a better description, and similar colour palette to yours - different design of the enamelled picture though and different shaped vase.
The label to the plate states it dates to 1878 prod. no. 358/l 12" and is marked on the base:

'a brown inscription 358/l 12" / V 198'
Unfortunately no photograph of the base shown.

Description of the enamelling reads:
'Painted in enamels in vivid colours and in gold, partly polished - two ostriches flying out of tropical vegetation, with passion flowers rendered underneath'.

The gilded band dot design might be a device used by a number of companies as it's not that distinctive I suppose but it perhaps gives a time frame as Christine said, of late 19th?

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2024, 12:52:52 PM »
Your vase is Harrach. It has an example of the Harrach numbering system on the base. A great many Harrach vases do not have the propellor mark

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2024, 01:14:23 AM »
Thank you Lustrousstone and Flying Free I have written to the Harrach Factory collection for further information - if I get I will post

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2024, 09:12:33 AM »
You may not get a helpful answer. There has been a lot of change at the factory and in the country since this was made, including nationalisation

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2024, 10:06:23 AM »
As Christine says, this is true. However, if you mention the reference I've given from the book with the plate number and the description as I wrote it,  there is a faint chance they might be able to find it.

They found one of mine including the pattern drawing of it and I think that was around that period (might have been slightly earlier)so there could be some documentation available around that time.

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2024, 09:42:57 PM »
I have followed up with the additional reference  information  however only have an email address for reception unlike other factories there is no specific address for a museum or collection
I have had no reply or acknowledgment of receipt so at this point I do not know where this information is going or if it is going anywhere to be honest

Thank you all fro your help I appreciate it 

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2024, 08:50:14 AM »
I think most probably Harrach is your answer; everything fits, from glass shape and colour, to decoration and, most importantly, the numeric marking on the base. As I said, Harrach has gone through too many changes to be likely to help with a 130-year old vase. You may get a more helpful answer on this specialist Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/212827135403330

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