Topic: Rare 1840s Baccarat uranium glass becher -show and tell Launay Hautin 1841

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Baccarat uranium glass for colour comparison (on my screen and copying it next to my photograph, this is the same or remarkably similar if not, colour to the larger glass)
This set linked is being sold as Baccarat and referenced to catalogue dated 1893  n°3571.

https://www.rouillac.com/ddoc-232717-cf2e0d69ba392e39a3aaa34efc13183e-273_1.jpg

https://www.rouillac.com/fr/lot-141-42718-encrier_cristal_vert_ouraline_baccarat

Just came across this yellow version- it looks very similar to the green.  Perhaps they are both Baccarat?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/19/0f/08190f5c238d9441bf27e8ae61aa5a2c.jpg

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Ironically I'm now the owner of a couple of Launay Hautin goblets myself from the 1840 catalogue, from a seller in Milton Keynes, so I guess these do drift across the channel from time to time. Mine are plain. They are heavy lead glass.

Neil I'm sure you've probably already seen this information in the article from Pressglas-Korrespondenz:
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2018-1w-stopfer-vogt-sg-baccarat-pokal-1830.pdf

If you haven't, it's worth translating (highlight copy and paste into google translate) as it talks about the 1840 catalogue showing articles from 1830 onwards actually.  So it might give a timeframe for your goblets.

In addition Mr Siegmar Geiselberger gives a detailed description of how the catalogues (Musterbuche - MB) were produced from the plates.  The plates were extremely expensive in the way they were produced so later catalogues carried on the numbering and simply crossed out the earlier items no longer available.
Mr Geiselberger says:
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'The planches from 1830 already contain a complete numbering, which was later continued without gaps - this can be concluded from the fact that this MB, like all later ones, was produced on plates made of Solnhofen limestone slate using the process of Senefelder 1798-1836 - lithography. These plates were so valuable that the first plates were used again and again. Glasses that could no longer be offered after 1830 were simply crossed out in black on the plates.'

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Yes thanks, I've been using the sequential numbering to get a rough date for the pieces I have from that catalogue. I've got a few now, found here and there on eBay. I'm intending to write a chapter on early English pressed glass when I do my book on Manchester glass, and I'll weave in some French pieces for comparison. At the moment I'm in the early stages of rough draft for my book which looks exclusively at Percival Vickers.

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I thought you might have. I wanted to link to it as I couldn't find the right PK description  when I was looking for it earlier in this discussion on here.

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In that period Neil, I just get the impression from info I've read (have no special research to back it up) that there was trade between France and England.  The development of coloured glass was a big deal.   Chance employed a French specialist, Bontemps in 1848, but even earlier employed French and Belgian workers see under para '19th century':
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_Brothers
and  my research on Varnish and Hale Thomson 'mercury glass' or double walled silvered glass from 1849/1850 shows they were in France registering a patent for it.

I think there was more trade then than is written about potentially.  So it's not necessarily that Launay products came here more recently.

Ok, this is not about French imports of glass into UK in 1840s but ... an interesting book on French glass in Iran in 1840s.
History of Glass and Ceramics in Iran 1500-1925, Willem Floor, copyright 2023 Mage Publishers.
I cannot link as it's copyrighted.
Page 53 discusses the French pressed glass being imported to Iran in the 1840s. 
Whilst all these things are dependent on trade agreements of course, it's likely there were imports of French pressed glass into UK in the 1840s as well I guess.