Topic: Sowerby Uranium Glass Chamberstick 14th September 1880

[Paul S.]

Fred - regret something appears wrong with my archive pix, and I'm presently unable to locate some of the Sowerby pix from 14th and 24 of September 1880.         However, can post 355156 discussed this morning, plus 355155 - the lidded butter.                  I'll be at Kew early next week and will make sure I get the others from both of these groups, and post soonest.

[agincourt17]

Thank you, Paul.

Absolutely no doubt that RD 355156 correponds to Sowerby pattern no. 5004.

As to RD 355155, that seems to correspond to Sowerby pattern 5001 covered butter (shown on page 10 of Sowerby pattern book XI, 1885).

Does anyone have a photo of an actual pattern 5001 covered butter to shown, please?

Fred.

[Paul S.]

here are some pix of the missing Registrations  -  let me know Fred if you still need others from these two groups.

Now attached   .......  355157 and 58  -  also 355628 and 29.

[agincourt17]

Thank you for your hard work, Paul.

There is no doubt in my mind, now, that the design representation for Sowerby RD 355157 corresponds to pattern 5002 (possibly a  butter dish to go with the 5002 sugar and creamer).

Sowerby RD 355158 corresponds reasonably closely with Sowerby pattern 5003 dish, shown on page 28 of pattern book XI (1885) as a registered design.

The RD 355628 sugar is only really matched by Sowerby pattern 1562, shown, along with a matching creamer, on page 57 of pattern book XI (1885) as a registered design.

The RD 355629 'vase', though,  has me rather foxed. The shape (with its 2 horizontal bands at the top and 3 at the bottom of the 'body' is most closely matched in the pattern books by Sowerby pattern number 1568 (shown on page 11 of pattern book IX, 1882, among the ' vases, spills & baskets etc.), but all the examples of which I have photos seem to be possibly sugar basins rather than vases, and all are quite clearly marked with the registry date lozenge for 11 March 1881 (RD 362734). I see from the Thistlewood Sowerby CD-ROM (vol 1) photos of Sowerby patterns that they too are somewhat confused (and, into the bargain, they show a sugar basin' without the two handles, unlike those in my reference photos, which do have handles).

I wonder, Paul, if you would mind checking the design representation for Sowerby RD 362734 some time to see if there is any similarity between that design and RD 355629, please?

Fred.

[Paul S.]

attached is Sowerby Rd. 362734, and as you can see, there is no similarity at all with 355629.

[agincourt17]

Thank you, Paul.

The design representation shape for RD 362734 of 11 March 1881 - Parcel 2 matches Sowerby sugar pattern 1560, which is shown (with a matching creamer) on page 51 of Sowerby pattern book XI (1885).

Jenny Thompson describes it as a 'sugar' and Simon Cottle as a 'sugar basin', but Cottle (page 104, 'Sowerby - Gateshead Glass') actually collates it with Sowerby pattern number 1568 'vase' instead of pattern 1560. It may be, therefore, that Cottle's [erroneous] collation has simply been used without further verification for the Thistlewood CD-ROM.

As to the examples of the pattern 1568 'vases' with clear registry date lozenges for 11 March 1881 - Sowerby RD 355629 of 24 September 1880 and RD 362734 of 11 March 1881 are chronologically consecutive Sowerby registrations, so perhaps whoever was responsible for the lozenge mark on the RD 355629 mould simply misread the Sowerby 'master'  list of RD numbers and applied the wrong lozenge.

Does anyone have a Sowerby pattern 1560 sugar or creamer with a lozenge mark to show, please?  I wonder if a 'wrong' lozenge has been applied to those also, and, if so, which lozenge?   

Fred.