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Author Topic: Carnival Footed Bowl with Cherries - ID = Dugan-Diamond Weeping Cherries  (Read 5916 times)

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Offline robbo

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Hi,

I've been trying to find the maker / pattern name, without success, of this carnival bowl:

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The cherry pattern is repeated four times. On the underneath / outside is a pattern in very low relief of stylised leaves and flowers. The foot is just clear.

Any help much appreciated!
Thanks,
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2006, 07:25:59 PM »
It's a seldom seen pattern - in fact seldom seen patterns - as both the interior and exterior designs are not found very often.

The interior (top) pattern is called "Weeping Cherry" and the outside design is called "Western Daisy". The combination is quite a rare one, that I know has been found in the UK before.

The maker was Dugan-Diamond.

Hope this is what you needed.

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2006, 07:50:13 PM »
Oooh Robbo, you dark horse you!  :wink:  :wink:

Now who is shopping in all the right places?  :P
If I know, I'll comment. If I think I know, I'll have a go. If I have no idea, I'll just keep quiet and learn from others, so the next time I'll know.

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2006, 09:19:20 PM »
Hi Glen,
Thanks for your quick response - you're a star!
Now you've given the name, I've found a few references via Google! I just wondered is Weeping Cherry usually seen with Western Daisy?
I found this auction, which looks pretty much the same (possibly the ruffles on mine are deeper, it's difficult to tell):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230001475976

I also wanted to ask, there are quite a few straw (?) or stress marks (?) - in the first photo you can see some of them as they are filled with muck - would this be usual?

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Same as the Sarpaneva glasses 8)

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2006, 10:12:36 PM »
The yuck is caled straw marks. most carnival glass was packed in straw before made into a form.  It is very common in carnival glass.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2006, 10:52:05 PM »
I always thought so called straw marks are actually stress marks caused by the cooling of the glass?
Thank you very much!

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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2006, 07:28:54 AM »
Shear marks - often called straw marks - have NOTHING at all to do with straw. It's a misconception and I have explained it here.

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/ShearMark.html

I'll write a fuller reply regarding the marks on the bowl, and also the pattern combination, later today. I wanted to correct the statement about straw very quickly, so I added this brief message.

Glen
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 08:01:29 AM »
Glen,

Thanks for the link to your article. After reading that, I'm guessing that on this piece any shear mark would be well hidden by the pattern.

Many thanks for your time.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2006, 08:06:10 AM »
Quote from: "Glen"
Shear marks - often called straw marks - have NOTHING at all to do with straw. It's a misconception and I have explained it here.

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/ShearMark.html

I'll write a fuller reply regarding the marks on the bowl, and also the pattern combination, later today. I wanted to correct the statement about straw very quickly, so I added this brief message.

Glen


Glen is there a difference though between marks like the one you showed and the very fine often curved ones that look like a hair has been caught on the glass and removed?
Thank you very much!

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2006, 08:24:58 AM »
Yes Lynne, there's a difference. There are many different kinds of pressed glass features that result in small marks.

More later ......

Glen
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Also, Riihimäki e-book and Carnival from Sweden e-book.
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For all info see http://www.carnivalglassworldwide.com/
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