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Crack or Flaw in basket - ID = Davidson
Glen:
Very interesting indeed -thanks for posting the extra info.
I can't see any intervening hobnails between the daisy like flowers on the Fenton version of this basket though - so I'll blame my fading eyesight :) The Fenton basket looks exactly like the Davidson one to me - but as I say, maybe it's just my rotten eyesight. There's a Fenton one on eBay at the moment.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130079567330
If Chris reckons it's Davidson then that's good enough for me.
Glen:
A quick addition - I understand Fenton made their Daisy & Button items in milk glass in the 1960s-70s ("Fenton Special Orders - 1940-80" - Walk).
Glen:
Here's a completed eBay auction for the Fenton "Oval English Basket"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250084364312
You'll notice that it is in blue - a lovely deep sapphire shade. It's Fenton's "Colonial Blue" colour. If you go to the page on Chris's website that Anne gave us the link to, you'll see the basket he shows is virtually identical.
http://www.cloudglass.com/VictorianOther.htm
EDITED TO ADD: the handles on the Fenton items may also cross differently - there are two baskets shown in the John Walk book I mentioned above: one is red (Colonial Orange) and the other blue (Colonial Blue). The red one has its handles crossing to the left, the blue one has them almost straight and as you'll see, the eBay link I've given in this posting has them crossing to the right.
ChrisStewart:
Hi All,
I was not aware that Fenton had bought the Davidson mould and had been reproducing this basket. If this is indeed the case then I guess the only sure way of identifying Davidson baskets is to check whether it has a registered designed number on it. I assume Fenton would have removed it.....
White could have been made by Davidson. Red certainly not. As far as I am aware Davidson did not make red glass for domestic glassware until after WWII. Prior to that it was only used in lenses.
I must admit I was thinking of 'Hobnail and star' when I wrote the email - different pattern entirely.
Regards
chris + two new (well elderly actually) cats
Glen:
--- Quote from: Ambergreen on February 19, 2007, 01:56:26 AM ---The Fenton pattern is slightly different. It has hobnails in between the daisy like flowers or stars. Thought the part about the Fenton pattern might be of interest to others. ;)
--- End quote ---
My final posting on this for now :)
With regard to the above observation, it's absolutely correct for most of the items in Fenton's Daisy & Button line (which actually metamorphosed into their Olde Virginia Glass / OVG line, in the 1970s). The clue is in the pattern name! - daisy like stars and buttons (hobs). But the basket we're discussing (the "Oval English Basket")- although always shown as part of the Daisy & Button line, does not have the hob/button motifs. It is identical (to my sore eyes) to the original Davidson basket.
None of this proves one way or another whether the basket we're discussing was made by Davidson or Fenton. All it shows (to me at least) is that the baskets are more or less identical. If a piece has the RD on it then it's Davidson. If it's in pearline, then it's Davidson. If it's red/orange, then it's Fenton. Beyond that, then I think we are not able to say on the evidence presented so far. Or have I totally lost the plot? :)
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