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Beautiful Ysart Heart
KevinH:
I can see nothing to complain about in that wording ... although ...
... The reference link to my pages on Ysart Brothers weights could easily confuse people and get them wondering whether the weight really is by Paul Ysart or by Ysart Brothers (Vasart). The difference is important to collectors.
I do not show a weight of that pattern in my pages, so the next best thing for general readers would be matches to canes. But there is one cane in my listed tables that is, I believe, identical to one in the weight; trouble is, it is not easy for most folk to find and anyway one lonely cane is not the best of references.
If the book that David mentioned (which, I am ashamed to say, I never got around to purchasing!) contains a photo of a similar weight (which I think it may well do), then that would be a better reference than my web pages.
josordoni:
Thanks so much, Kev, I really do appreciate your input, I am getting better at my terminology, but not perfect yet!
I would like to reference your site, but I'll change the link to your home page, and add in this discussion so that people can read your proviso. I don't have the book yet (will see if it is available on Sunday at Cambridge, or get it from Amazon later) so I can't happily reference that.
btw - I looked carefully through all your canes and couldn't find an exact match, although there were quite sufficient similar in shape to be happy I had made the right decision, but could you tell me which one is an exact match?
David E:
--- Quote ---If the book that David mentioned (which, I am ashamed to say, I never got around to purchasing!) contains a photo of a similar weight (which I think it may well do), then that would be a better reference than my web pages.
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As a general guide, this book is fine.
It does contain two pages on Paul Ysart, and a further two on Vasart & Stathearn, and 12 more pages on other Scottish makers. Covers all the major makers as well.
KevinH:
;D
--- Quote ---I looked carefully through all your canes and couldn't find an exact match ...
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Seems like an opportunity for a bit of fun. Let's play "Hunt the cane".
Can anyone find the match that I have mentioned? Bear in mind that there is more than one set of cane tables in my web pages. And don't forget to try clicking on any image for a larger view - such as those giving a stand-alone page with all the canes for a given weight displayed individually.
--- Quote ---... although there were quite sufficient similar in shape to be happy I had made the right decision
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Yes, right decision, but the reasoning is not really valid. Lots of Scottish paperweight canes have a similar look, and this covers more than just the Ysart production.
Another important point (that I have now satisfied myself is true) is that weights made by the men at Ysart Brothers (Vasart) sometimes had canes that are also found in Paul Ysart's work. I suspect that many of the canes made in the 30s, and used in known Paul Ysart weights, were also taken for use at the start of the Ysart Brothers company. Checking canes is not enough for identifcation of some weights.
josordoni:
it's a nightmare for us amateurs.... :-[
Still (perking up a bit) gives me something to think about when I'm not working, doesn't it!!
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