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Title: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase? - ID = Whitefriars 9571 cut down
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 10:52:35 AM

I bought this recently at a Boot Sale. It is similar to the Whitefriars Hambone Vase but is also obviously not by them. It has a flat, polished base with signs of wear (sorry for lack of base picture) and is  a smokey grey in colour (not quite as light as picture is showing. Any help with ID would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: vidrioguapo on July 05, 2010, 11:14:05 AM

What is the height of this vase? And width across widest part of the body. It is quite possible it is Whitefriars.

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 11:16:25 AM

The vase is 5.75 inches high.
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: vidrioguapo on July 05, 2010, 11:19:39 AM

Sorry  just modified my previous post to also ask for width. 

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 11:22:09 AM

this is a pic of the Whitefriars Hambone I had. The "insert" piece looks different in each vase. that is why I thought the smokey grey one wasn't Whitefriars.
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 11:23:29 AM

Sorry - keep missing your post - lol. The width is 3 inches.
Thanks
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: robert1960 on July 05, 2010, 11:24:20 AM

Looks right to me.

colour = Twilight   :)

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 11:28:26 AM

Thanks Robert 1960. What threw me was that I couldn't find a picture of one in their catalogues which shows the V shape of insert rather than the more usual wider and deeper shape.
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: vidrioguapo on July 05, 2010, 11:40:53 AM

It is Twilight, but the dimension don't match up with catalogues.  It looks more like a 9571 , which is 8 inches tall, but it has been known for these to have been cut down ( due damage or whatever.  Your ruby one above is a 9572 and is similar in dimensions to your Twilight one, but I would reckon it is a tad wider.

Here's a photo of the 9571 in Ocean Green and  Arctic Blue( uncased) which you will note has similar internal as yours.  They were also made in Twilight.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/emmismith/Pewter.jpg)

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 11:54:27 AM

Thanks Emmi. It would certainly appear to be a cut down 9571. Whoever did it must be really good because the top rim doesn't look or feel as if it has been cut back.
Kind regards
Ronnie

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: robert1960 on July 05, 2010, 11:58:18 AM

Well done Miss Marple  ;)

 :hiclp:

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: vidrioguapo on July 05, 2010, 12:06:06 PM

Have seen it done before, and yes a good job can be made of them. The differences between the width of the  9572 and the 9571 are very subtle that's for sure but shows up (to me at least) when the height has been tampered with.  The proportions are just not right.   :sun:

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: robert1960 on July 05, 2010, 12:09:53 PM

Yup

After all, they're cut down and polished when they're made..so no reason why anybody with the necessary skills can't cut them down further and make them look perfect.

Title: Re: Who is the maker of this Hambone Vase?
Post by: zidori on July 05, 2010, 12:12:01 PM

Yes. Thank you both. It is still a nice piece of glass especially at £1.
Regards
Ronnie