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Title: vase? - ID = Lorraine Glass Industries, Canada
Post by: angel2 on January 30, 2012, 12:03:53 PM
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Hi!
Would I be right in thinking that this vase is by Jan Beranek or perhaps Jan Kotik? Help please!

a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: bOBA on January 30, 2012, 02:07:50 PM
It doesn't look vintage CZ to me... the colours seem unfamiliar, maybe murano?

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 30, 2012, 04:12:56 PM
Far Eastern, murano-made-yesterday????
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on January 30, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
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Hi! Thanks for your responses!
No, I don't think it's new at all but yes, the colour isn't what you'd expect - I'm sure it's not Eastern, it has a much better quality feel to it. The only other thing I can think of is maybe Chalet Canada? It's certainly got the weight and definitely the colour of orange Chalet. Would anyone concur? (Using that word always makes me think of DiCaprio in 'Catch me if you can' when he's pretending to be a doctor!) Anywayup, would that be a possibility?

a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 30, 2012, 04:32:48 PM
Chalet does not tend to be so decidedly lopsided, squint and skew-wiff.
How is it finished off? (base shots always help)
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 30, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
Your pictures are too tiny, they don't blow up. You need to make the longest dimension about 700 pixels.

What size is the "vase"? I'd be more inclined to Chinese too.
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on January 30, 2012, 08:51:37 PM
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Thanks for all input. I think it was my pic that was askew and not the vase. My back movement is very limited and I can't always get things lined up. The base is a trefoil; I hope you can see clearly on the pic but I can always take another if not.

All the best, a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on January 30, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
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Sorry, forgot to put measurements. Height: 12.5cms, Rim: 15cms, Base: 9cms, Weight: over 1.8kg.

a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: langhaugh on January 31, 2012, 03:49:58 AM
 Not Chalet, I'm pretty sure.

David
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on January 31, 2012, 06:58:29 AM
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Thanks David.

a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: bOBA on January 31, 2012, 09:28:49 AM
David, do you think Lorraine is a possibility?


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: langhaugh on January 31, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
 Mmmh! Let me check my files when I get home (Thursday).

David
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 31, 2012, 11:12:46 AM
Not terribly likely in the UK; we don't get much seepage of Canadian glass
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on January 31, 2012, 12:45:41 PM
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I've had (old) Chalet glass here at boot sales.
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: langhaugh on January 31, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
I agree with Christine about Lorraine in the UK. Chalet had an office in the UK for no more than a couple of years, which says something about their sales there. Lorraine never sold in the UK to my knowledge. However  glass seems to have a way of finding its own way around the world, even in minute quantities, so I wouldn't rule it out completely.

David
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 17, 2012, 01:36:45 PM
Did you find confirmation that it's a Jaroslav Beranek piece from '59?
I see it's listed as such.
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 17, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
Did you find confirmation that it's a Jaroslav Beranek piece from '59?
I see it's listed as such.

Wow is it??  :o

I would have leaned towards Lorraine Glass myself -- just by the lobes on the bottom.  I would have been fooled  :spls: by this piece
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: rocco on February 17, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
I think the experts agreed that it is not Czech -- so certainly not Jaroslav Beranek either :-\

Michael
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: langhaugh on February 17, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Looking at the Chalet book, I'm reconsidering Chalet. I can't see this piece in there, but I do see a similar colour, a similar mouth, and similar base, just not the same piece. Let me ask Deborah, the Chalet specialist, to have a look at this thread.

David
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 17, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
Looking at the Chalet book, I'm reconsidering Chalet. I can't see this piece in there, but I do see a similar colour, a similar mouth, and similar base, just not the same piece. Let me ask Deborah, the Chalet specialist, to have a look at this thread.

David

???

IMHO, I would think Lorraine (chalet) glass (Canada) by the lobes on the base....IMHO  :pb:
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: chaletvintage on February 17, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
Hi everyone,

David asked me to take a look re the possibility of the vase being by Chalet - very close. In fact the maker was mentionned - another Italian Canadian Glasshouse in Montreal of that era - it's by Lorraine Glass Industries. Classic Lorraine colour combo and base. Although agree it is an odd shape - would say not a production piece. Probably using up some glass.

Deborah
www.chaletvintageartglass.com
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: angel2 on February 17, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
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Thank you all - listing now altered to Lorraine Glass.  :thup:

a2
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: langhaugh on February 17, 2012, 11:59:31 PM
Deborah,

Thanks for taking a look and for your opinion. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised and what turns up where wehn it comes to glass.

David
Title: Re: Jan Beranek vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 18, 2012, 11:12:12 AM
Thanks Deborah, very kind of you.  :thup: