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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: eglass on March 30, 2007, 05:36:42 PM
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Hello!
I was wondering if anyone can enlighten me about the company that marks its pieces 'Julien France'?
I've googled, mamma'd, and all I can seem to find are a couple of closed ebay auctions and a listing or two at Rago auctions for opalescent pieces - no info regarding the company or it's status (closed? open?).
Thanks for any info!
Kelli :D
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Julien appears on a few moulded opalescent glass pieces. From the look and feel of them I'd guess they were made at Choisy-le-Roi. Date would be about 1930-50. Julien is probably a designer or retailer's mark.
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Thanks, Steven! My husband called this morning telling me that he'd purchased a large bowl that was signed with that mark, and I thought I'd try and find out a bit about the company. I appreciate having the additional information, again, thanks!
Kelli
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It looks as though the Choisy-le-Roi company is very similar to America's 'U.S. Glass' company - what was once a bunch of small glass companies joined in 1891 to become U.S. Glass, which then produced tons of different patterns for different distributors. Am I on the right track?
Now to find out if "Julien" was a department store, gift shop, boutique, or what....
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Ivo Haanstra's book, Millers Glass fact file A-Z gives Julien as "trade name for pressed glass made in France c.1930". He doesn't say who made it though. :-\
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Thanks Anne (and Ivo)! Saves me translating pages of french website text, looking for stores with that name, lol.
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Hi again!
I wanted to come back and post photos of the bowl that you all were so nice to help me with:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6101
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6098
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6099
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6100
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6097
I wasn't able to find any pieces online or in my few art glass books that had this "fruit basket" type pattern, so I thought it may help someone in the future. This bowl is 14" long, 10.5" wide, 2.25" tall - stands on 4 little peg feet. I love it, lol, but it's destined for the auction block. I will enjoy it for a little while longer first. :)
Thanks again!
Kelli
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Hi Kelli
Nice Bowl, I have a vase which is signed Julien France on the base, in the last 4 years I have only seen about 2 pieces one was a large bowl and a vase which I bought a couple of years ago and still have, my vase does not look a true opalescense, , this vase stands 12.5" tall and weighs 1.7 kgs
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6114
regards roy
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Roy, your vase appears to confirm the Choisy-le-Roi/ Sevres attribution as it is a pattern I've also seen with the Etling mark. The opalescence is also very similar to my Etling peacock vase. A number of the Etling patterns also appear with different marks; I have a wine coaster signed 'Cesari' which appears identical to Etling examples.
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Roy, that is a stunning piece of glass - love the art deco lines, and the look to me is more of a matte opalescence, really beautiful.
I've spent a lot of time the last few years studying mainly American glass, wish there were more hours in the day so I could devote more time to that beautiful European stuff. If only I'd started earlier in life, lol.
I sure appreciate the input from you all on this Board, I'd be lost without it!
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Hi all
I appreciate that this thread is a little old, but I was wondering if anyone had any more information regarding julien. I have recently acquired a vase marked julien france. its quite a stunning piece in my opinion, and I would love to know more about it, particularly the possible value of a such a piece.
Stuart
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Again, this is definitely another pattern which also turns up with an 'Etling' mark. I had a clear frosted example which had the typical moulded Etling France marks. This pattern then was very likely made at Choisy-le-Roi. As to why they are marked 'Julien', I can't say. I suspect Julien were another retailer or maybe was an alternative brand name these patterns were sold under after Etling ceased trading.
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Thanks that's a help. Would I be right in thinking that this piece would be from 1930s?