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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: keith on April 30, 2010, 07:47:26 PM
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Thought it looked like Chances,couldn't remember seeing it in the book but there it was,'white yasmin' and a possible test piece?
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White Yasmin yes, I had a cakestand in this pattern some months back. :)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8493.0.html
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very desireable looking piece Keith, one of the nicest looking plates - would it have originally have had a label? Bet you're as chuffed as I was finding a Ruby Quilt bowl recently. However, apart from the Balloon Trays :) don't seem to get much in the way of good Chance pieces down here.
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Thanks for the replies,you'd think I'd have shed loads of the stuff considering I live about 3 miles from what's left of the factory,although this year I've seen more than ever before :huh:
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having collected Chance and Fiesta for couple of years or so, I had initially invested heavily and supported the plastics industry by purchasing trillions of plate stands. On reflection this leads to disharmony with one's mate in the house, and I was told to remove them all - mind you I did wonder whether she should go rather than the plates - but her cooking is exceptional ;) So I now have a five draw mega sized chest of draws in one of the garden sheds, and my entire Chance/Fiesta collection now languishes there in the dark and unloved - plate after plate piled high with toilet tissue between each piece. Oh, the price we pay for cohabitation ;D
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Paul, that's so sad! :cry: What a way to have to treat your glass... :pb:
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mind you I did wonder whether she should go rather than the plates - but her cooking is exceptional ;)
The cooking must be exceptional..... ;D
Craig
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Would love to see a quilt plate let alone get one,it's the intaglio 'hanky' vases I'm searching for;must be lucky as my OH has the same passion for glass,although not quite so bad,My camera collection has had to go back into store to make space for the glass and the sci-fi books could be next.
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Anne - I'm looking for a woman with 100 yards of free plate rail space in her dining room - any takers ;D
Craig - to paraphrase Kipling "a woman is just a woman, but a good piece of glass is forever (well nearly the same, anyway) - however, the cook may have to go even yet ;).
o.k then Keith, the attached is just to make you a little green - I think from memory something like 8.5/8 inches in dia., from a flea market in Brighton (Sussex - UK).
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:ah,have you got one of these?
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It that opal glass or white enamelled on the back? Wonder if David has one?
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great piece of glass Keith :mrgreen: I didn't know what it meant so have cheated and looked on the web......something about "from God, not by chance". Hope it didn't costa fortuna' ;), but I don't see it in the book - is it that rare?
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It's opal glass,David's got one I believe,don't think they're rare and it was less than a fiver if I remember.My Grandfather and his brother worked at Chances,trying to find more details about what they did and have recently found that my Greatgrandfather was also a glassmaker we don't know if he also worked there,I've only one piece 'handed down' and that's one of the Hellenic trays.
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David didn't have one when he wrote the first book and anything in opal glass is scarce...
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I did email him a while ago with some pic's including this one and I'm sure he said he had one or maybe he meant a picture,he's been going through the archives recently and said he would look out for my grandfathers name(very kind of him) I will have to try and see these archives myself one day,
Keith.
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It's opal glass,David's got one I believe,don't think they're rare and it was less than a fiver if I remember.
Yes I have got one. They are not that common, but were not made with opal glass - I think you'll find it was sprayed on the rear. Opal glass only appears to have been used for a very short time for some trays and a very few handkerchief vases.
However, there were two types of opal glass used: solid opal, such as some of the Playing Cards from the mid-1950s - see photo in my book - and are quite scarce. The other is opal-flashed, like Cut Pearl, and some of the earlier trays, like the Vintage Cars. Provisionally, I would date the use of opal-flashed up to about 1962.
"Seeing" the archives (if they let you down into the basement - unlikely) is mind-boggling. You have to make an appointment and request what you wish to see from the archives. Naturally, that's very difficult when you don't know what's available, but there are some employment records. Also, if I do find any mention of your grandfather, I can't tell you if it's documented after 1929 as I've had to sign the Data Protection Act... but I'll hint very broadly ;)
Remember, as I have said before, there is 30 cubic metres of the stuff for me to wade through over the next year or so. I have already taken over 3,000 photos in 9 visits and am currently working on building a device to allow me to photograph both pages of an open ledger (which cannot be flattened!) in one go.
See Laura Brett's blog (http://www.chancearchive.blogspot.com/): she is the archivist and has done much of the work in reorganising what was shipped down from St Helens.
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Putting on my glasses I can see it is sprayed on the back as you said,would love to see the archives will get round to it one of these days,thanks for all the replies,
Keith.
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David - thanks for posting the link to Laura Brett - makes for a very interesting read indeed. Intriguing to read that (currently) elephant dung is used in the manufacture of paper - 'especially in areas like Thailand where these animals are considered an agricultural pest'. I hadn't realized that elephants were that common anywhere these days - we hear so much about their decline, but it is good news that they are not all dying out. Guess you would need a big wheebarrow to collect their droppings though ;D
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Anne - I'm looking for a woman with 100 yards of free plate rail space in her dining room - any takers ;D
Paul, I don't even have a dining room, never mind any spare plate rail space! :24:
... the attached is just to make you a little green - I think from memory something like 8.5/8 inches in dia., from a flea market in Brighton (Sussex - UK).
Ohhhh I have one of those as well :thup: and I had the square plate to match it... sold the latter a while back.
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-804
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-805
This was my other intaglio find a while back - a scarce white one...
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18839.0.html 8)
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It is not very often you see Chance glasses come up in an auction by itself. Last month there was a set of 6 Norman Thelwell tumblers by Chance went for £45 by Fieldings. Not a bad price.
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Dear Anne, so sorry for you Dhhhharling - where does one eat if one doesn't have a dining room in the 'hyse' - thought it was only the working classes who still eat in the kitchen, don't you know >:D -
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Heh heh heh Paul, you couldn't eat in my kitchen either - it's way too small!!! :24: (We'll get Cafe'd any moment now.... we'd better creep off and be silly elsewhere! :chky:)
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Got puzzled why it was called yasmin and not jasmin,it stems(bad flower pun) from the original Arabic word, yasmin,just thought I'd pass that on if any body else wondered.......
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Hmmmm - we eat in the kitchen.... the dining-room has been taken over by glass....
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'especially in areas like Thailand where these animals are considered an agricultural pest'. I hadn't realized that elephants were that common anywhere these days - we hear so much about their decline, but it is good news that they are not all dying out.
They are endangered (http://www.bagheera.com/inthewild/van_anim_elephant.htm), one reasons being that 'in areas like Thailand [...] these animals are considered an agricultural pest.'