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Title: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: PAUL H on May 21, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Hi all I have noticed recently there have been a few Isle of Wight crizzle stones appearing for sale on the web and was wondering how many have been made
and the comparative rarity of these pieces. They have been made by Timothy Harris and are signed as such and I was considering trying to acquire one for an
investment piece. The prices seem high to me compared to the super rare Michael Harris Mdina ones any thoughts... Paul.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: glassobsessed on May 21, 2010, 06:11:47 PM
I was surprised at the price one reached on ebay recently, it probably more than doubled the price it was originally sold for, not bad in three years.

As I understand it, around twenty or so have been made, some in 2007 and a few more in 2009,  it may not be that easy to find one to buy.

A few photos of the three I was lucky enough to pick up are in this album: http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/MiscellaneousGlass#

John
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: PAUL H on May 21, 2010, 06:19:23 PM
John I am so jealous you are a lucky man.. have you any pics of the bases and are they limited editions or one offs.. they are beautiful.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: glassobsessed on May 21, 2010, 11:59:05 PM
I guess each of them is a one off, nature of the beast. Not limited editions as they are not numbered in that fashion. The bases are ground and polished.

The 2007 and the 2009 stones I have seen are signed and dated. The 2007 stones also, as far as I know, have a number engraved (I haven't handled them all so can't be definitive),  I am fairly sure the no1, no2 etc. refers to the colour. The blue ones are no1, that amethyst one on ebay was a no2, might as well add a link to it before the photo disappears: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISLE-WIGHT-GLASS-CRIZZLE-STONE-VASE-SIGNED-/330430677708?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item4cef3402cc

Don't know what the number on the turquoise one (http://www.glassfairs.co.uk/Images/Previews/May10/20thC/IOWSGTurqCrizzle.jpg) sold at the National was, I think I was offered that one for sale some time ago but I bought this Mdina fish vase (http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/EarlyMdinaGlass#5473340076203262786) instead. I wish I could have afforded both.

Next time, if there is one, to hell with the overdraft.

John
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: glassobsessed on July 02, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
Several are now for sale at the Isle of Wight Studio Glass website: http://www.isleofwightstudioglass.co.uk/acatalog/Specials.html

Scroll down for the three examples.

John
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 02, 2010, 09:19:00 AM
John, with the fish vases, are those real cracks in the glass? I quite like the fish vases but those cracks look off putting to me.  :huh:
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 02, 2010, 09:32:50 AM
They're not cracks; they are where another layer of glass has been added.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 02, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
Thanks lustrous...they look like cracks in the photos. I have seen a few photos and they look like cracks to me. We never seem them here in OZ. I think i would still pass on them though. Although they look nice.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Anik R on July 02, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
Oh my word!  :o

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the prices shocking?

Why do the crizzle stones cost so much?  Is there real gold used in them?  Is it snobbery?  (Forgive me if I'm asking stupid questions, but I'm curious).  They are pretty though.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 02, 2010, 11:02:12 AM
They are one-offs and individually hand made. Their production is also quite time-consuming and relatively difficult. They are art made by a top-level craftsman. The yellow is silver salts not gold. They are not tiny either.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Anik R on July 02, 2010, 11:12:47 AM
Aha...  thank you, Christine!
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 02, 2010, 11:13:31 AM
Nice to look at but at that price definitely not worth it IMO.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 02, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
I gather the silver salts used are extortionately expensive, but you also have to take into consideration the costs of running the business, paying staff and the number of years of experience Tim has - he is after all, one of the very top glassmakers in europe and considerably more skilled than professional footballers or pop stars you'd have to pay a fortune to hire to do something for you.
You're obviously all used to buying second hand stuff which is cheap and does not take into consideration the cost of production! >:D
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 02, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
You're obviously all used to buying second hand stuff which is cheap and does not take into consideration the cost of production!  :24:
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Anik R on July 02, 2010, 11:41:18 AM
... he is after all, one of the very top glassmakers in europe and considerably more skilled than professional footballers or pop stars you'd have to pay a fortune to hire to do something for you.

Put that way, I suppose it is worth its money (and more) and I truly understand why a a person would desire it -- But it's still shocking for me to think that a person might have that much money to spare. 

Maybe one day I will too  ;D



Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 02, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
There are a lot of very wealthy folk "out there" Anik, who can waste far larger sums of cash on loads of non-essential nonsense. I imagine the hire of a stretch limo and chauffeur for an evening might be about the same as a Tim crizzle stone!
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Anik R on July 02, 2010, 12:00:07 PM
There are a lot of very wealthy folk "out there" Anik, who can waste far larger sums of cash on loads of non-essential nonsense.

And some highly non-wealthy people as well...  If I'd stop smoking for half a year, I'd be able to get myself a very nice crizzle stone.  :pb:

Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 02, 2010, 12:33:53 PM
And how would the government cope without all the tax you pay???  :nogos:
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Paul S. on July 02, 2010, 12:53:31 PM
screw the government Anik  -  just think of giving up and staying youthful and good looking for so much longer :) - plus all that money you might save.    Paul S.
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: glassobsessed on July 02, 2010, 05:31:50 PM
Try buying an original painting or sculpture from an equally well known and respected artist for the same price. Glass can be 'cheap' in comparison, especially if you take account of the cost of production.

John
Title: Re: Isle of Wight crizzle stones...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on July 02, 2010, 06:32:40 PM
There are a lot of very wealthy folk "out there" Anik, who can waste far larger sums of cash on loads of non-essential nonsense. I imagine the hire of a stretch limo and chauffeur for an evening might be about the same as a Tim crizzle stone!

Where are these people?  :ooh:

And would they like to adopt me?  :chky:

Carolyn