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Title: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: bmbjosta on September 14, 2010, 03:56:30 AM
I recently purchased this blue glass candleholder of a woman- a candle can be placed on her head. I'm in Australia and this item was at my local auction house, which was auctioning off the contents of a Danish shipping container of antiques/collectibles/bric-a-brac/furniture. As such, I think it's probably Scandinavian, but otherwise know nothing about it (and very little about glass, generally).

The item is moulded glass so I assume that means it's not an antique- i.e. mid century modern?

Could anyone assist re. possible age, maker etc? Any help is greatly appreciated.

(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/th_front.jpg) (http://s899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/?action=view&current=front.jpg)

(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/th_back.jpg) (http://s899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/?action=view&current=back.jpg)

(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/th_under.jpg) (http://s899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/bmbjosta/Ebay/?action=view&current=under.jpg)
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: glassobsessed on September 14, 2010, 05:12:19 PM
Welcome to the board.

Sorry no idea about your figure but wondered if she is designed to hold something under each arm?

Pressed glass has been around for a very long time but the figure does look fairly modern to me.

Dimensions might be useful.

John
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: bmbjosta on September 15, 2010, 12:28:16 AM
Thanks for looking.

I'm not at home at the moment so I can't check on the size, but a rough estimate would be around 20cm tall.  It's quite heavy for its size.  I don't think she is designed to hold something under her arms- I have seen similar poses in Scandinavian pottery/porcelain figurines, and it doesn't look as if anything is broken off or scratched in that area.
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 13, 2010, 12:24:02 AM
Older thread: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,13947.msg89550.html#msg89550
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: px on October 13, 2010, 03:59:05 PM
although I've spotted one of these on a Finnish flea market myself I would definitely say "not scandinavian" looking at the costume.
Scandinavian folk dresses have similarities between them (FI/SE/NO/DK), usually a white apron and a vest.

I googled a little (folk, costume, dress, traditional, national etc.)  trying to figure out some distinctive details;  the crinkled (probably lace?) collar, whatever the long thing in the back is. It seems no apron...

The closest I get are from eastern Europe. How about Polish?
here's a long ribbon from the hat: http://www.wayn.com/waynphotos.html?wci=photo&photo_key=25068685&member=6775277#pkey=25068799 (http://www.wayn.com/waynphotos.html?wci=photo&photo_key=25068685&member=6775277#pkey=25068799)
And on this site scroll down and see "Woman's Folk Costume from Opoczno" (or click the first picture left on the third row) , similar kind of a collar and the stripes on the apron. http://www.easterneuropeanart.com/polish.htm (http://www.easterneuropeanart.com/polish.htm)
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Anik R on October 13, 2010, 04:23:24 PM
px is right...  the candleholder is Polish.  I've seen a few of them here, but I don't recall the glassworks.  


EDIT:  There are currently two in clear glass up for auction on Allegro...  they are unhelpfully described as "Old Polish glass":  http://allegro.pl/stare-polskie-szklo-orginal-zestaw-swiecznikow-i1265150846.html
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: bmbjosta on October 14, 2010, 11:52:23 PM
Thanks again all for the comments.

In one of the related threads (link below) someone has stated the following- "A friends parents brought back a pair of these from Romania in the 1950's and had said they were her mothers who had them since the 1940's."  Would 1940s therefore be around the right date for my candleholder?  Due to the bright colours I assumed they were perhaps a little later (1950s-60s) but I am still learning about glass.  Also, did Romania make much/any glass?

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18804.0.html
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Anik R on October 15, 2010, 04:21:34 AM
Your candleholder, and the ones in the other thread, is not Romanian, but Polish.  As the woman is wearing a Silesian national costume, the piece could have been made by Zabkowice glassworks (in the 1930s).
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 15, 2010, 06:46:06 AM
The colours are fine for 1940s or 1930s (and yes glass is made in Romania)

Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Anik R on May 25, 2011, 07:19:25 PM
I've come across some new information regarding this candleholder.  It may be called 'Karolinka' and is a figure dressed in costume used by the Silesian Song and Dance group.  It was produced by H.S. Ząbkowice in Będzin, possibly in the 1960s (I thought it would have been earlier).  Might be a lead...

http://allegro.pl/swiecznik-karolinka-h-zabkowice-lata-60-te-i1634478851.html
Title: Re: Help please re. Scandinavian blue glass candleholder
Post by: Anik R on November 03, 2011, 03:36:40 PM
I think there is a strong possibility that the candleholder was designed by Eryka Trzewik-Drost in the early 1970s for Ząbkowice.  In Ceramika i Szkło Polskie XX Wieku, position 1132 describes a candleholder made in 1974 called 'Meksykanka'. The 'Mexican' girl candleholder by Trzewik-Drost can be seen in this auction:   Meksykanka (http://allegro.pl/miodowy-swiecznik-meksykanka-i1910928920.html)
The same seller has got the Silisian girl candleholder:  Karolinka (http://allegro.pl/miodowy-swiecznik-karolinka-i1910928922.html)

Just a thought.