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Title: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - ID = Ząbkowice
Post by: Anne on September 04, 2008, 01:17:44 AM

At first glance this looks like it could be Sklo Union, but.... 

I've also seen it attributed without proof to Ruda, but it doesn't look as rough as the examples I've seen of theirs, so....

it's probably by someone else entirely, any suggestions where on the globe to start hunting please?

Size: 165mm tall, 100mm top diameter.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 12:20:00 AM

There is a different colour of the same vase in GlassGallery (David555's image)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1981 as mentioned here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2038.msg16755.html#msg16755

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Chris Harrison on September 05, 2008, 12:50:24 AM

A darker grey/green version is also known.  I have one tucked away in a box, I think...

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 01:27:39 AM

Hmmm any chance of a pic sometime please, Chris?  Perhaps the colour range will help run this mystery to earth.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Pip on September 05, 2008, 08:31:54 AM

I have one of these in green and suspect them to be German.  Mark Hill also had one on his stand at the Dulwich Art Glass fair - I discussed it with him and he was of a similar opinion.  These are often mistaken for Sklo Union but Marcus will confirm that they're definitely not.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 08:54:51 AM

Hi Pip, Marcus has confirmed privately to me that he believes they are not SU - perhaps when he's less busy he might have thoughts to add here too. :) 

Meanwhile thanks for your info - most useful. Any chance of a pic of yours as well please? I'd love to see the colours they came in. So far just blue and green shades, no ambers, reds, purples....? 

How often are they seen? Perhaps the dealers amongst us can say if they come across these frequently or rarely. All info will help give us some directions to search in. Thanks again.  8)

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Pip on September 05, 2008, 09:19:26 AM

Sure thing, I'll get a photo of mine up as soon as I can.  I don't come across these often - I've seen a few (less than 6) on eBay over a period of a year or so and I've only owned one.  I've also only ever seen them in blue and green.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 10:16:07 AM

Great, thanks Pip. :)

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Chris Harrison on September 05, 2008, 06:51:52 PM

Well, here's mine.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-10571

It's just a little darker than yours, Anne, although I think it has a grey tinge. 
Perhaps these greens are not deliberately different.  Maybe they're just the result of inconsistent mixes, or each one is coloured individually.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Pip on September 05, 2008, 07:05:58 PM

Mine is a very greeny green - like a bottle green - no grey or blue in it at all.  I've been trying to find the photo with no luck - but I'll reshoot it if necessary.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Chris Harrison on September 05, 2008, 07:21:25 PM

The colour of my vase reminds me of the colour of a vase that was in Graham Cooley's Czech exhibition a few weeks ago, and has already been discussed in

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9360.0.html

Best guess is that that vase isn't actually Czech.  If only we could identify it, we could perhaps make a better guess at this one.

I've just taken another look at the amber vase that kicked off the thread I referenced.  The base is shallow, and very similar to the vases in this thread.

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 10:25:43 PM

Thanks Chris, that's really useful to see. So once we see Pip's that will be four colours: 3 greens and my blue one. Anyone else have these as well please?

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: smokerstill on September 05, 2008, 11:42:56 PM

Hoffman did a lot of Malachite glass stuff with similar geometric base configurations in the 1930's if its any help:-)

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Pip on September 06, 2008, 09:36:25 AM

Ok here's my green one...

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on September 06, 2008, 01:27:49 PM

Ooohhh it is *very* green isn't it Pip. Thanks for the pic, that's super. :)

Alice, I'm not sure it is at the moment, but thanks for the thought. :)  I'd not considered the base shape as an identifier but it could well be. We've seen cog shaped bases from France as well but mainly in those peachy pink liqueur and fruit sets. This is one that's really bugging me now - I want to know where these came from. :)

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on April 06, 2009, 04:58:09 PM

Adam P has one in a shade of green http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1981 which is very close to that seen in a OLG/VLG piece by Wagenfeld shown here: http://www.designhandlung.de/sites/g006.php - could these be later OLG/VLG production?

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anik R on March 04, 2017, 08:47:17 PM

Hi all,

The vase is Polish, produced by Ząbkowice.  It appears in the 1971 catalogue which can be accessed via the pressglas-korrespondenz website.  Scroll down to page 33  here. (https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/archiv/pdf/pk-2013-3w-01-mb-zabko-1971-pressglas.pdf)

Anik :)

Title: Re: Heavy dark blue pressed glass vase - who?
Post by: Anne on March 05, 2017, 03:00:57 AM

Brilliant, thanks Anik!   8)   

I had seen it said to be a Drost design elsewhere but without the supporting evidence, which you have now provided. (That was why I'd not updated this in case it was another mis-attributed myth thingie.)

My other mystery green vase is on the same page too! I'd long suspected they were by the same maker. :)