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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: obscurities on April 24, 2009, 04:33:57 PM
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Here is another one from my collection which I have had for years. It was suggested by someone early on that it was a Hobbs Brockunier piece circa 1880's. I have researched that possibility a little bit and it does not seem to me to be correct.... but I am a complete novice when it comes to Victorian era glass other than Bohemian and some Murano. It has also been suggested to me that it may be early English glass, but again... not an area about which I know much.... actually, other than some Stevens & Williams knowledge because of an interest in Steuben, I know next to nothing..... Bought it at an auction many years ago because I found the form and colors to be absolutely fascinating. It is the only piece of glass of it's type we have in our diverse collection. It stands 11.25 inches tall and is 4 inches in diameter at the crimped lip at the mouth. The colors represented in the images are very accurate... at least on my monitor :)
Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks in advance for all of the fabulous help I have been getting here.....
Craig
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No idea, but I bet those feet are uranium glass. Keep bringing them on so we can drool ::)
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The feet glow like a traffic light under a small amount of black light..... brighter than most anything else I own.....
Peggy, my better half, saw this during an auction preview we went to and fell in love with it immediately..... It is really quite stunning in person...... and the form is so very unique..... very organic... Just wish I knew who made it...
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Craig, I am in the same boat as you when it comes to English glass. I don't know a whole lot about it. But based on the little I know, I agree with you that your vase looks English, maybe late 19th Century Stourbridge area.
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Hi Anita, After many years of looking at images of English glass, Stourbridge is what it strikes me as, but I have had it for about 7 years now, am a complete internet research and ebay junkie :o and have never found a vase that looks even close to it..... Similar feet..... yes. Opalescent bodies..... yes. Body shape like this one... No. Crimped mouth like this one.... kinda. Nothing at all that combines all of these characteristics in one piece..... On one hand it frustrates me a whole bunch to not be able to figure it out... It is so unique in form that one would think that would make it easy to identify........ On the other hand as a collector though, I like it because it means I have a very unique piece in my collection.... My collection is quite diversified, and I am probably drawn more to "unique" than I am to any one particular type of glass.....
Craig
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Craig...need to apologize first for not replying to you on the irridescent green overlay vase I posted a couple of weeks ago. Thanks. You are correct as this is not Hobbs, while they did some nice opalescent work the entire form & especially the foot is not associated with Hobbs. What it is is a very nice piece of art glass. Ken
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Craig
I have seen a few pieces of early Loetz glass that had that deep 'oxblood' red on the top (particularly on big bowls and Jack-in-the-Pulpit vases). Loetz also made vaseline glass during that time period. I would lean more towards a Bohemian connection than an English attribution.
Just my 2c, for what it is worth.
Dave
(aka Mr. Vaseline Glass)
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I wonder whether Rindskopf is the answer and it's their Pepita colourway
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Christine,
I know it is not Rindskopf Pepita, as the Pepita is really a transition from redish to green. I had never really even considered the possibility of it being Bohemian though... The thought had never crossed my mind. I have personally never seen a Bohemian piece I would consider to be even remotely similar to it....
That being said, I sent the images of the vase to Alfredo to bounce it off of him for an opinion about the Bohemian possibility.......
Mystery Solved...... It is actually a piece of Kralik, :o and not only did Alfredo know that, he has a twin to it in his collection!! I have asked him about a time frame for it and will post any information I get from him regarding this piece.
I have to say... I am completely floored that the piece is Kralik......
Mystery Solved!!! With an amazing and completely unexpected answer!!! :thup:
Craig
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I bet you're glad I dug this one up again. ;) Those feet are Bohemianish though
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I am thrilled you did...... :kissy: :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp:
After looking at the feet again, they do look more like the feet on some other Bohemian thorn vases I have sold in the past. I had to go into my old picture archive from several years ago to look, but they had the same sets of parallel lines on them....
I guess that I associate (no longer) those type of green feet with English glass which, as I have said before, I don't know anywhere near as much about. The Bohemian pieces I have had with feet have all been simpler, straighter lines, basic colors and more linear forms.
Alfredo sent me an image of his vase which has been in his collection for around 20 years, and it turns out it is not identical, but it is definitely the same house that made it. The top on his is not crimped, but more in the form of a flower done by shearing the top vertically. The flow of colors including the feet up through the body into the mouth, the types of glass, and the application of the red are all done in the same techniques.
I am still a little shocked, and totally reminded what an amateur I really am when it comes right down to it.
The more I think I have learned, the more I realize I really don't know......
I will post an image of Alfredo's vase on here if it is OK with him.
Also, a belated thanks to Dave, Mrvaselineglass, as he suggested that direction earlier and I never thought to forward pics to Alfredo at that time... I guess I was still in denial...... :-[ I had been thinking English for so long I just wasn't getting it!
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The vase dates, as I suspected to the 1890-1900 period. I am attaching an image of the Kralik vase from Alfredo's collection which confirms the attribution.
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I wanted to add, as this thread came up in a discussion in another forum, that I am now of the opinion that it is Bphemian, but I am not so sure that the Kralik attribution is correct. My Welz research and more years of looking at Bohemian production like this has had me arrive at the conclusion that far too much Bohemian production like this has been easily attributed to Kralik.
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I probably missed this thread first time around. I do not know if this will help, but ...
Although not a match for all parts, I have a vase (Jack-in-the-Pulpit type) with what I believe is the same rim finish, with 20 swirled crimps and very similar colouring. The blue on the underside of the rim is not as obvious as in Craig's item but is clearly of the same overall look.
The body of my vase is a regular opal colour, and not translucent in normal viewing, although it does have a hint of "fire" with strong transmitted light. The foot has a basic, and "hollow" cracking off scar on the underside.
I bought this in England in the early 1990s. I do not know where it was made, but some years ago I saw a very similar example on the internet described as being by an American company, the name of which I was convinced I would remember ... but sadly cannot!
Searching today for "glass crimped rim vase jack pulpit oxblood" shows several items with a fairly similar look. Unfortunately, most of the links I tried were dead. There were a couple on eBay (which will disappear) and some on "Pinterest" - a site which, for me, just wants to cover my screen with a "mask" which tries to lure me in to signing up!
There is, however a JiP vase on Ruby Lane (http://www.rubylane.com/item/689289-4966/Antique-Jack-Pulpit-Amethyst-Vase) which has the same swirled crimped rim (albeit in a single purple colour) and a translucent opal body.
My vase, shown below, is 6 inch (15.2 cm) diameter at the rim, 6.5 inch (16.5 cm) high and 3 13/16 inch (9.6 cm) daimeter at the foot. When held by the rim and tapped on the body, it gives a non-ringing "tinny" sound.