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Title: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: Anne on July 26, 2006, 01:33:19 PM
I've googled until I've gone google eyed!  and searched all my glass books and come up with nothing that might indicate who, where and when this vase was made. I've found references to this sort of glass as being made in Italy and Bohemia. None of the Italian ones have deer or leaves on - it doesn't seem a particularly Italian design. Is it more likely to be Bohemian, or somewhere else entirely?

Vase details: 8 inches tall, 4 inches diameter across the rim. When found the silver was so dirty it was almost black, washed the glass and cleaned the silvering with Goddard's long-term silver polish and it's come up beautifully clean. Silver has a little wear to the rim and one of the deer has faded forelegs. Quite a bit of wear to outer edge of the base, and a circle in the middle which is hard to see clearly but shows up better on the photo of the base.

Can anyone help some more with this mystery please? (Whatever it is I love it, and it was a snip at £1.50!)

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2658 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2658)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2657 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2657)
Title: Green with silver overlay vase... help please.
Post by: Ivo on July 26, 2006, 03:16:25 PM
Italian 1950s, even if there are no gondolas on it.
Title: Green with silver overlay vase... help please.
Post by: Anne on July 26, 2006, 03:36:26 PM
Thank you Ivo, you're a star as ever. :) Is Italian likely to be Murano, Empoli or some other bit of Italy I've not heard of yet?
Title: Green with silver overlay vase... help please.
Post by: Tigerchips on July 26, 2006, 05:08:17 PM
I've got a few of these and I was thinking about selling them for around £4-5 each. I'm not sure about the ups and downs of value for these though.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%2048050.jpg

I found the purple one impossible to clean even with silver polish but the others were fine.  :?
Title: Green with silver overlay vase... help please.
Post by: Ivo on July 26, 2006, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: "Anne"
Is Italian likely to be Murano, Empoli or some other bit of Italy I've not heard of yet?


Venice or immediate surroundings, I think. It's typically a decorator firm who paints blanks and fires them; they're not the choicest pieces by a real artiste.
Title: Green with silver overlay vase... help please.
Post by: Anne on July 26, 2006, 07:29:53 PM
Thanks again Ivo, Venice area suits me fine. I'm not worried if it's not a choice piece, it's just one of those things that appealed to me (and it goes with the lounge decor!)  :wink:

TC I like your vases as well... I'd have thought you'd easily get a fiver each for them - especially when polished up and shiny.
Title: Re: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: Anne on May 06, 2010, 06:04:40 PM
Revisiting this topic again as I just found another example (small size) in a kingfisher blue colour with silver overlay. The silver was black and took a *lot* of cleaning to get it silver again, but the reason I picked it up (for all of 75p!) was the remains of a label on the base, which says PAULY & ... anyone care to suggest who that was and if it was a dealer / importer or something else? (I'll add pics as soon as I can find the camera!)
Title: Re: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 07, 2010, 01:07:53 AM
I heard of that before, could it be Pauly & company?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauly_&_C._%E2%80%93_Compagnia_Venezia_Murano

Is this anything like the label here, that you have the remains of:
http://www.fossilfly.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=1671
Title: Re: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: KevinH on May 07, 2010, 01:10:20 AM
Pauly & Co - see Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauly_&_C._-_Compagnia_Venezia_Murano) (maybe most info is ok?)

Aah! Rose got there just as I was posting  :)

I know nuffink about "Kingfisher Blue" - some sort of collector-coined term for some sort of old-ish London-based glass ennit?

Is the item and colour anything like the pair below? (A gift from a friend - also blackened when I got them.)
Title: Re: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 07, 2010, 01:19:50 AM
I actually found something  :hiclp: :hiclp: finally


Here is some more info down a bit a person might want to read.  http://www.theglass.it/tag/glass-factory/


@ KevH - I beat you by 3 minutes - LOL - but you were (as always) busy with other post and I do not know as much to add to other posts, so that is the ONLY reason I beat out.  My lack of knowledge - except finally for one here....But HEY, I am learning.  GMB is a good teacher.  TY

Title: Re: Green with silver overlay vase... = 1950s Italian (Venice)
Post by: Anne on May 07, 2010, 01:27:04 AM
Rose, thank you! that looks like the folks!   :hiclp:

Kev, I meant kingfisher blue as in the colour of the bird, not as in used by a certain London glassworks.  :-[  (Incidentally, Caithness also had a blue colour called kingfisher - I have a vase example somewhere.)  Anyhow, I digress: yes mine's a similar shape as yours but not the same blue...  I'll dig out the camera and add a pic...  can do that whilst listening to the election results on the radio. :)

Edited to add pics of the new one plus a comparative pic of a green one to show the colour difference. The green is very much an Empoli/emerald green. I've managed to lose the label pic so I'll have to re-do that one. ::)