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Title: Made in Finland
Post by: Hotglass on April 20, 2007, 09:00:09 AM

Made in Finland blue & white paper label
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6552
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6551
Riihimaki ? Pompadour ?
I'm confused because I have seen Pompadour items simlar to this but also others very different.
Thanks
Ed

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Della on April 20, 2007, 09:18:00 AM

Hi Ed,
Yes, Pompadour, designed by Nanny Still and depicted on pg.229 of Designlasin hintakirja (alongside a Pagoda) and also 3 other varieties shown on pg 232 of the same book.

Very nice  :D

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Hotglass on April 20, 2007, 09:27:37 AM

Thanks very much Deltab. I haven't seen it in yellow before either.

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Hotglass on April 21, 2007, 12:22:28 PM

I just wanted to say that another reason why I doubted that it was Riihimaki is because the glass seems better quality and heavier than the other 2 Riihimaki pieces I have as I see you guys have been talking about that. I even think it may have some lead content but I'm not sure about that - it just seems so bright. Another thing is that the colour goes all the way down to the base - no clear layer. Ed.

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Della on April 21, 2007, 12:50:49 PM

Hi Ed,
I do know that Riihimaen Lasi did produce solid colours, yellow being one of them. The piece you show is a Pomapdour candle holder as opposed to the solifleur vase. I have not yet seen one in a solid colour either (appart from colourless), but I presume that they were made.
The Pompadour vase and candlestick are pictured together on pg.217 of Andy McConnell's book, but both are cased.
I wish that I could be of more help.  :-\

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Hotglass on April 21, 2007, 02:43:30 PM

Gosh ! That's more than enough Thanks Deltab
Candle-holder ok that makes a lot of sense.
I wasn't doubting your first reply. I just wanted you to know that I a,m also finding these differences like other have noticed. Ed.

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Della on April 21, 2007, 02:56:34 PM

I didn't think that you were doubting my reply, Ed  ;) I too am really curious  ??? I actually have about 70 Riihimaen pieces, some signed, some not, some labelled, some not, some extrememly thick glass and some really quite delicate.
I know that David555 (Adam P) was doing a little research into the thickness of certain Riihimaen vases, but he hasn't been around for ages.
Della

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: palo400 on April 22, 2007, 11:09:36 AM

Hi
This piece is Nuuttajarvi Nostjo designed by Oiva Toikka.
The rim is shorter to that of the Pompadour, these pieces often get classed as Riihimaki.
They are very similar in looks and as you say, the glass is thicker than Riihimaki Pompador.

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: robbo on April 22, 2007, 03:10:33 PM

I'm voting with Della on this one. As Della has said, the candleholder is shown in Designlasin as Nanny Still Pompadour / Riihimäki. In addition these rectangular blue & white "Made in Finland" labels have been discussed here before, in relation to Riihimäki. I have one on an Aimo Okkolin vase.

Nuutajärvi did produce a turn-mould blown candlestick Pikku Majakka designed by Oiva Toikka, produced 1967-71.

See here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180107761229 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180107761229)

robbo

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: palo400 on April 22, 2007, 03:45:07 PM

Designlasi also have a vase on "Tiimalasi" vase by Nanny Still this one was designed by Tamara Aladin.
Even the experts get it wrong sometimes.

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Cathy B on April 22, 2007, 10:24:58 PM

Fire and Ice also has this as pompadour, p. 28.
Della mentioned three other varieties in Designlasin. Here's another: the turned top rim is cut off at at the top of the last rounded element, so it looks a bit different. Maybe that's where the confusion lies?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6624
(excuse the horrible photo, and the horrible green shelves :) )

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: palo400 on April 23, 2007, 08:35:07 AM

Okay I think I got this wrong, :P big piece of humble pie for breakfast.
 
   RIIHIMAKI / RIIHIMAEN POMPADOUR VASE : NANNY STILL Item number: 220105077750

Title: Re: Made in Finland
Post by: Hotglass on April 23, 2007, 10:11:19 AM

Thanks everyone. Its been interesting. Just another small wrench in the works ...Mine measures exactly 22cm and the base is 6.2cm not 6.5. Also that one seems to have a bit of a curve going up to the top / rim  wall. Mine is very square there.
I kind of remember reading , a long time ago, about Riihimaki taking over some of Nuutajarvi production when they both got taken over and ended up under the same ownership. But I might have this wrong ...and I can't find any reference to it now. ED.