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Glass / Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Last post by flying free on April 20, 2024, 09:05:45 PM »
They did register patents but I don't know about designs.

Baccarat was marked from ? maybe late 19th?
Saint-Louis is marked as well.

I remember a thread on here years ago where Bernard commented on it.  The fact that glass factories didn't mark their items and how astonishing it was that someone would produce some fabulous art glass vase and it would then go out without makers mark on. By comparison to pottery/china and silver it is actually quite shocking.
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by MHT on April 20, 2024, 09:42:04 AM »
Well I have just tried and I can get my delicate (not) fingers in them, so we will call them finger rinsers.

Yes, Venetian is the style, available in flint and green although flint versions are rarer so maybe not so popular.
If you look at the pattern book page in the webpage there are two clear patterns shown and one of the glass jugs in the gallery is in clear flint glass.
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by flying free on April 20, 2024, 09:19:52 AM »
Actually I've just checked the price list of the Venetian on page 440 and there isn't a butter or salt in the list.
Perhaps they might have been their 'finger cups'?  10cm probably isn't that small diameter in reality and perhaps would have functioned as a finger rinser?

It also seems that the range 'Venetian' applies to the style rather than the green with blue because they say the 'Venetian' range is available in 'Flint' or 'Venetian green with turquoise tops'.  So it's the handblown range/style that is called 'Venetian'.  Not specifically green with turquoise rims.  This is probably already known info, but I'd always assumed 'Sowerby Venetian' referred specifically to the blown glass range in green with turquoise applied rims.
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by flying free on April 20, 2024, 09:13:58 AM »
I think we decided on another thread that finger cups was a description for what we think of as finger bowls yes.  The pair of bowl in the gallery I think would be too small for that description as they're only 10cm in diameter.  Perhaps butters/master salts maybe?

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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by MHT on April 20, 2024, 08:51:48 AM »
Looks like they could be Venetian. Are finger cups what we call finger bowls or rinsers?

Might be like the pair of bowls in the Gallery on this page:
http://www.victorianpressedglass.com/sowerby_venetian.htm
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Glass / Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Last post by thewingedsphinx on April 20, 2024, 04:43:51 AM »
And that’s why the Brits used the registered design lozenge to curb copying around this time. I’m not sure if the French or Americans ever used a similar idea. Apart from trademarks or names?
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by flying free on April 19, 2024, 11:00:17 PM »
oh page 425 I did notice something
On the left hand column it says Finger cups Turqois edge.  They were enormously expensive. I thought that might be Venetian?
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by MHT on April 19, 2024, 10:15:38 PM »
As Mike says these are all Sowerby colours. The list is referring to prices from a catalogue from August 1881 but for some reason the illustrations from the catalogue have not been included.
"* It was not considered expedient to publish the illustrations sent by Consul Jones." (see page 417).

Sowerby pattern numbers have, in general, not been included in the price lists so it is impossible to tell which patterns the prices refer to.

A few pattern numbers are included in the lists, some with 3 numbers which are early.  It's almost a list of all patterns produced by Sowerby up to this date.

The price list seems to cover domestic as well as ornamental coloured goods. It is also interesting to see Sowerby Venetian mentioned on page 440.

Nice find m.
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Glass / Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Last post by flying free on April 19, 2024, 09:50:01 PM »
You're welcome.

I'm a bit curious though that some of the comments might be 'politically' inspired perhaps?
I mean if someone from Boston (or any glassmaker) wanted to copy French glass, surely they could have bought the items in the States.  That said, perhaps the whole range wasn't easily obtainable or available there and so the opportunity to buy up the range direct from source was too good to miss maybe?

Either way , it's an interesting report direct from the horse's mouth at the time.
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Sowerby Opalescent (blanc de lat) small “gathering apples” 1882
« Last post by flying free on April 19, 2024, 09:45:44 PM »
Well that's good to know :).  Thank you.  Hopefully the info might be useful even just in terms of the list of items produced perhaps.  It's not an area I collect or know anything about but I always love a list :)
m
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