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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Piper on February 19, 2007, 08:33:29 PM
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Hey everyone:
I know I'm probably being a bother. I try not to be. I try to research and ID my glass for myself when I can. But it's difficult when I haven't got a clue as to who mad a piece or even what the proper terms are to describe an object.
This glass is beyond me...I have 3 of these things. they could be vases, candle holders or maybe even drinking glasses (?). They are about 7 1/4" tall. They are blue glass that's been blown into a copper or tin sleeve. There is a geometric pattern of squares and diamonds cut into the sleeve that the glass "puffed" out through (like a quilt) when it was blown. There are metalic traces on bottom where they cut the glass at. Does anyone here have any idea what they are or who made them, how to describe them and are they worth listing on Ebay??
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/zatzafraz/Picture001.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/zatzafraz/Picture002.jpg
Thanks for any help.
-Piper.
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Hi Piper
I'm sure no-one here thinks you're making a nuisance of yourself! I can only speak for myself but I love looking at the various different pieces of glass posted on here - things I'd probably never come across - and learning about them from what's posted.
In the case of your blue/copper jacket vase, a chap called Wiktor Berndt produced glass items similar to this for Flygsfors in the 1960's (I think) - although whether that is correct for your piece I couldn't say but I'd definitely recommend you try searching for some items by him for comparative purposes and see how you get on. Hopefully someone else on here will either confirm (or more likely) refute my suggestion ;D
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I had a Berndt combined pitcher/smoking set a while ago in this finish, and the quality of this one doesn't match up at all. So I would say that it isn't Berndt.
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Yes Pips quite right Wiktor Berndt Tribal range for Flysfors around 1960 were very similar, though I don't think this is from that range as they were always signed to the base and I've only ever come across the copper cased pieces in amber and green and never in blue.
Don't suppose you've still got yours Nic?
Paul
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Oh thank you!! I will start I have made a cup of tea and will start researching Wiktor Berndt. This does seem to be poor quality glass, so it probably isn't Berndt. But at least now I have a place to start. Thank you :)!!
I hope you're right, Pip. I would hate to be a bother to anyone. It just seems that I'm always asking for help and I'm never able to offer any help to anyone else. Maybe someday someone will have an item that I recongnize and can help them with...
-Piper.
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'Fraid I sold the set midway through last year, Paul, and the photographs of it got lost in the recent death of a hard-drive. :(
I do recall that it was green, though. The pitcher & glasses were signed, but the smoking set wasn't - but the glass was the same colour throughout and the copper had the same pierced design, and so were certainly from the same range.
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:o Gosh, I wish these were Wiktor Berndt. Not a one of them is signed and the quality isn't there so it's pretty safe to say they aren't Berndt, right?
Does anyone here have a link where I can see something from Wiktor Berndt Tribal range for Flysfors for comparison??
-Piper.
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Not sure this helps, Piper, but there's sometyhing on whitefriars.com that they think is Berndt...
http://www.whitefriars.com/glass/whitefriars/464
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There's a signed Berndt item on the following site (you need to scroll down quite a way to get to it) ...
http://www.hiandlomodern.com/glassMain.html
They have some really nice stuff on that site (things that I'd absolutely love to have on mine!) however, I did notice quite a few items as I was scrolling down to the Wiktor Berndt piece that aren't positively ID'd and which I think are fairly straightforward ;D (my time hanging around here obviously hasn't been a total waste!).
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Thanks for the links...After comparing my vases to both the signed piece and the mug shown at whitefriars I do not think that either the mug or my vases are Berndt. They both resemble the signed piece. The mug might be...but my vases definately aren't. Therefore, if I do sell these vases (which I probably will because I personally don't like them) I will list them honestly as Wiktor Berndt knock-offs :) And that's what I think they are. Thanks for all of your help!!
I have one other mystery glass item that I will list in the next few days or so. Before I do that I want to look at these two sites some more. They both look like a really good sites...
-Piper.
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The blue glass in the iron sleeve is Spanish as far as I know, and was made in the 1980s. It comes in a large range of decanters, shot glasses, table votives etc. Not sure who made these specifically - but I suspect it may be Lafiore production.
Wiktor Berndt items have a very high quality, and you'll immediately recognise the quality if you handle one. Sleeves are high quality copper - not crudely made iron.
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;D I sort of like the crudely made iron sleeves. They look primitive.
...Lol, Sounds like these vases or votives are probably just more cheap junk.
:'( I have lots of cheap junk. Someday I'll get my hands on a good piec of glass.
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...like the crudely made iron sleeves...
There is plenty of expensive, wel made junk too, better to go with your heart - a lot more people collect cheap glass than expensive glass. Junk is in the eye of the beholder.