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British & Irish Glass / Dartington ribbed bowl
« Last post by Keith Mick on November 30, 2024, 03:08:05 PM »
Hi, can anyone help with this ribbed bowl ID. I believe it's Dartington but would like to know what the design number is and approx manufacture date are. I don't have the Dartington first 20 years book and I'm unsure whether this may be a later design anyway. It's a very attractive design which catches the light well. Approx 14cm tall and about the same at the widest point.
Any help appreciated,
Cheers
Keith
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Glass / Re: Topaz or Canary or Victoria
« Last post by flying free on November 30, 2024, 12:40:53 PM »
oooh thanks for that spy letter!  sent possibly 1850s?  So perhaps getting hold of uranium oxide wasn't that easy at that time if he was suggesting getting it from France?

 'better than the English'? that's an interesting comment in the letter. What does it refer to I wonder -  uranium oxide mined from English source (Cornwall?) or just uranium oxide available to buy in England? If it was just uranium oxide available to buy in England which may have come from Bohemia (?) why would it be different to that available in France. 
I think France did have a mine for Uranium oxide (need to check that) so I wonder if it was just a piece of politics in the letter, 'whispering' that the French mined (if it was) uranium oxide was better than the Bohemian oxide.  Certainly at the Great Exhibition in 1851 a major middleman of Bohemian uranium oxide (Can't remember his name now)  was showing it there and I've found documents where he was selling it.




RE Chameleon Glass
see here for Bohemian Chameleon Glass :
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,70066.msg390747.html#msg390747

Quote
'Just going back to Apsley Pellatt's mention of chameleon glass in the book dated 1849:
In Farbenglass II, Neuwirth, pp276, there is a chapter titled 'Chameleon Glass where it says:
-  Egermann exhibited a number of "chameleon beakers" in 1835.  And
- 'The colour glass specialists at Adolfhutte succeeded with this creation prior to 1837' (a jug is shown and it is inventoried in the Technical Museum Wien along with date and the inventory 'speaks of "chameleon glass"'. And
- 'J.B. Eisner lists a group of "chameleon" glasses which contain uranium and chromium oxides (Blau,1940, p.17)'
'

So 'chameleon glass' as a descriptor seems to have been used before 1837 in Bohemia and mentioned by Pellatt in his book of 1849.  I wonder was he referring to Bohemian glass? - Unquote





Yes I think the Queen Victoria bowl thread has become a book unfortunately.  I talk too much!
 I don't even own the  bowl so I don't know why I care that much :)
I think it's because I find it really irksome when makers are noted but no definitive source for it. And the fact that bowl was originally promoted as by James Powell and Sons and miraculously became 'by Davenport' when it transferred museums piqued my curiosity.


 
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Glass / Re: Info on James Powell Topaz glass - "The Queen Victoria Topaz bowl"
« Last post by flying free on November 30, 2024, 12:08:38 PM »
There is an exhibition and museum in Japan :)  (My bold in quote)

'Collections
The Fairywood Glass Museum's archive and exhibition collection comprises of two categories: 19th and 20th century uranium glass works from both Japan and overseas, and glass works made by contemporary glass artists. The majority of the older uranium glass items in the collection were personally collected by our honorary director, Dr. Ken Tomabechi. The exhibition also features a very popular goblet from the Russian Empire, which was owned by uranium glass collector, Ritsuo Yoshioka. Both men donated these items to Kagamino Town, and they are what makes up our current exhibition.
'

I saw the book ages ago but can't afford to buy any more at the moment :(  But thanks so much for persisting with this very long thread and trying to help.  It's much appreciated.

There is a jug in the museum with a silver lid dated 1840 apparently.  They say this is the earliest dated piece of uranium glass.
https://fairywood.jp/en/about.html

see jug here
https://fairywood.jp/en/img/museum/img_collenction_05.png

'An item used by the nobility of European high society when drinking coffee. Its silver lid bears a mark of the Austrian government which certifies the purity of the silver. The mark also includes the year it was produced (1840), and this is currently the oldest uranium glass item in the world with a known production date.'

See also here items in the permanent exhibition:
https://fairywood.jp/en/permanent_exhibitions.html
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Glass / Re: This old goblet has evil symbols in it, an was used for rituals
« Last post by Ekimp on November 29, 2024, 03:44:07 PM »
The eye of providence probably. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
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Glass / Re: This old goblet has evil symbols in it, an was used for rituals
« Last post by chopin-liszt on November 29, 2024, 02:34:43 PM »
 ;D
It could also be the protective eye that watches over you, and the teeth might be eyelashes?  8)
This does look quite recently made, and mass produced with those mould seams and being rather clunky.
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Latest find, Stevens and Williams.
« Last post by chopin-liszt on November 29, 2024, 02:28:12 PM »
It is absolutely stunning and I am rather curious. It has graduations of colour that make my guts wonder if it is heat-struck?
But I've never encountered this colour combination in glass apart from one necklace of dichroic glass beads I saw about 25 years ago which went from blues to yellows and greens, and I never found out what it was apart from beng told "alexandrite". They were clear, cut glass.
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Glass / Re: Topaz or Canary or Victoria
« Last post by cagney on November 29, 2024, 12:34:30 AM »
  Topaz I think represents an early term and an indication of what type of yellow you were liable to get using uranium, insofar as glass formulas anyway. A  shorting of the term topasglas.

   I am in complete sympathy with you on the various cryptic terms inserted here and there and then left buried.  Chameleon glass does seem to have been a thing. From the "Report of the Committee on Exhibitions of the Franklin Institute" 1847 #638 glassware from the Union Glass Works.  " The articles, consisting chiefly of cologne and toilet bottles,-opal,turquoise,green,chameleon &c., were made in an open  or hollow ware furnace, of bottle glass. Many of the tints are as rich as would be expected in flint glass.The hock and toilet bottles, of colored opaque body, are considered as deserving a First Premium. A year later in a advertising circular put out by the same company amongst Druggist and other wares they list "Bohemian and colored glass" then go on to list colors "Ruby,Canary, Turquoise, Victoria Emerald" below this another listing "emeralds, blues,Greens,Ambers,Purples,Amethyst, Amarite,Black, White, Agate, and Chameleon . Also mentioned is "Enamels of every Colour'.

  As to the QV bowl and your thread you seem to be ' between a rock and a hard place " as we say over here. On the one hand you the Powell/Whitefriars experimental formulas of 1833-1836, on the other hand you have Ford making Canary glass 1839. No actual documentation of any English glassworks producing such glass in 1837.  I commend you on your fortitude, savy and determination. Your thread is is almost becoming a database on the subject.

  NevB's gobleti interesting. From the photos I cannot tell what uranium brings to the glass color. Seems to look like a nice medium amber, probably should ask Nev.

   I leave you with this tidbit from Deming Jarves agent [spy?] in Europe from a letter sent probably 1850 s
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British & Irish Glass / Re: Latest find, Stevens and Williams.
« Last post by keith on November 28, 2024, 11:57:54 PM »
Thanks Christine, it is rather nice  :)
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