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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Gary on October 26, 2011, 05:21:56 PM

Title: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on October 26, 2011, 05:21:56 PM

Are these Monart vases a post war variant shape OJ (minus applied foot).
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Frank on November 01, 2011, 07:45:41 PM

Variants are mostly ID'd by labels. Are you sure these are Monart and what is size and what are bases like?

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on November 01, 2011, 10:42:09 PM

These vase are 11.5cm tall and the pontil is polished flat. I have seen and handled numerous vase in this shape, the smaller ones where usually had the base polished flat and the larger ones had the normal post war pontil finish. To date I have not seen one with a label.
This is one other vase in the colour code 234.
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Frank on November 01, 2011, 11:19:06 PM

Can you add a pic of the blue base.

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on November 02, 2011, 12:50:43 PM

Here is a photo of base.
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Frank on November 02, 2011, 10:57:18 PM

I would be inclined to add these to the 'L' page as NL if no-one objects. They cannot be a variant as variants have to be labelled examples to prove the case and without a foot it really is a new shape. If you could e-mail the pics, I will add something straight away to Ysartglass and in due course to Scotland's glass as I continue the migration... one day  :ac1:

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: MHJ02 on November 03, 2011, 08:28:42 AM

I have a very similar OJ post-war Monart, here's a pic of mine, no label.   When I originally purchased it from a reputable auction house in Perth, the owner, also a collector, told me there were 2 versions of the OJ with and without a foot!!!!!
Mary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on November 03, 2011, 07:44:17 PM

I have emailed some photos to you Frank, hope they are ok.
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Frank on November 04, 2011, 12:45:11 AM

 ;D replied. Thank you

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on April 26, 2012, 07:54:28 PM

I spent a most interesting afternoon at Perth museum viewing the museums collection of Monart not on show. Being able to handle some of the best pieces of Monart that I have seen was something else.
Among the many pictures I took were these two. This proves that the shape without the applied foot is a variant  of the applied footed one OJ.
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Frank on July 22, 2012, 11:07:29 PM

Well found, can you kick me in a month or two to deal with this please - currently working every spare moment to get all sites software up to date :(

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on July 23, 2012, 07:30:53 PM

Will do Frank, the photos here are of an other post war OJ shape but with a "normal" Monart pontil finish. The smaller (5 inches or smaller) OJ shapes I have seen, have a smooth finished base and the larger ones, have base finishes like the photo below.
Gary

Title: Re: Monart post war variant OJ shape ?
Post by: Gary on February 23, 2013, 09:35:13 AM

Doing as requested Frank.

Quote from: Frank on July 22, 2012, 11:07:29 PM

Well found, can you kick me in a month or two to deal with this please - currently working every spare moment to get all sites software up to date :(

Gary