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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: mhgcgolfclub on November 10, 2016, 07:45:18 PM
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Blue opalescent glass creamer not signed or marked but I am pretty sure its Henry Greener.
Fred have you any of this pattern in your galleries. There is a similar Davidson pattern I think, but this should be Greener.
Height 4.25"
Roy
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Thank you for showing this Roy.
I'm sure that I've seen this pattern somewhere before, but I'm not sure where, and I don't seem to have any photos of it.
It's a shame it's not marked because, to me too, the type of pattern, the base colour, and the colour and distribution of the opalescence would be strongly indicative of a Greener & Co. attribution from between 1885 and 1895.
I've checked through the extant unregistered Davidson designs 1880-1890 and there is no match there.
Fred.
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Hi Fred
I thought exactly the same that I have seen the pattern .I have not had time to go through all my pictures as they are in no order, but will keep looking.
Everything also screams Henry Greener to me also . Doubled checked not even a faint mark.
Roy
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Success, Roy! Greener it was.
Greener & Co. RD 196641, registered 10 August 1892 (described by Thompson as " pattern, mostly imit. cut").
I only had two reference photos for this pattern, both for small tumblers - one in opalescent yellow uranium glass, and the other in blue opalescent glass - but, for reason, I hadn't added them to the GMB RD database.
The photos of the cream jug will be a nice addition to the GMB RD reference files, and I intend to add those + both my other photos asap.
Fred.
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Thank you Fred
I carried on checking through some of my pictures and found that I sold the 2 blue tumblers a few years ago and looking at the background most likely the yellow opalescent one. I will have another check through and see if I can find any other pictures which may be of interest to you .
Roy
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Thank you, Roy.
Photos now on the GMB RD database, all duly credited to you.
Fred.
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Fred Thank you
Do you have pictures of the Heppell Davidson covered shell butter dish ?, if not let me know .
Roy
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I do, Roy. It's from Heppell RD 374437 of 6 December 1881.
I have a photo of the covered butter on its own (which looks to be in opaque white or possibly ivory glass) and one with the matching sugar basin and cream jug (which all look to be in opaque white glass).
Fred.
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Unlike the majority of National Archive drawings where the design is shown on a specifically shaped item of glass, Rd. 196641 is of the far less common variety where the original factory representation is simply a geometric design on paper................. as shown attached.
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Thank you, Paul -much appreciated.
Fred.
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Another example, a tumbler in a sort of amethyst/dusky brown uranium glass, height 4½ inches.
John