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Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: beachie99 on March 26, 2006, 12:44:16 AM

I would like help identifying this emerald cut to clear vase.  It measures 10" high and 5 1/2" across the top.  Does anybody know the pattern and company that produced it?  I would also like to know the year it was produced.  Any help in identifying this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Ron

(http://www.bluehawthorne.com/images/vase-emerald3.gif)
Larger pic:  http://www.bluehawthorne.com/images/vase%20emerald3.jpg
(http://www.bluehawthorne.com/images/vase-emerald4.gif)
Larger pic:  http://www.bluehawthorne.com/images/vase%20emerald4.jpg

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: Ivo on March 26, 2006, 07:19:07 AM

the style is 100% Val St. Lambert but the vase itself is not in the latest catalogue - so it may be an older model.

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: beachie99 on March 29, 2006, 08:38:48 PM

Thanks Ivo.  Someone else mentioned to me that it could be cased or flashed.  Does anyone know?  Is it easy to tell the difference?
I also found a similar picture of a Dorflinger "Montrose" pattern.  Could this be Dorflinger?
Ron

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: Ivo on March 30, 2006, 05:56:09 AM

if it is it should be easy to find out.
http://www.dorflinger.org/museum/index.htm

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: beachie99 on March 31, 2006, 02:55:58 AM

Thanks Ivo.  I sent an email to them.  I don't know if they will reply. But thanks for the information.  I was wondering about cased or flashed.  What does it look like to you?
Ron

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: Ivo on March 31, 2006, 06:00:20 AM

cased. You're making an interesting technical point - what is the difference between cased and flashed? I think thickness of the layer, and the technique of application. (folded around the core with a spatula or dipped)  But in the end result i am not sure you can actually see the difference.

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: Frank on March 31, 2006, 11:13:39 AM

examples and explanations of the technique can be seen in this archived thread  http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1247.msg7814.html#msg7814

Title: id in identifying this emerald cut to clear vase
Post by: Hotglass on March 31, 2006, 03:30:27 PM

Cut glass patterns have been so widely copied that it can be impossible to pin down a maker from pattern alone. Color, shape, glass quality and more subtle features of the cutting come into play.

Emerald is less common than other colors and does suggest VSL. Look very closely on the base for a signature. Use a magnifier.