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Title: Scottish pwt - but who and when made? ID = Caithness
Post by: misha on December 30, 2014, 08:58:10 AM

I'm advised by a friend that this paperweight is of Scottish origin, but we are not sure from what factory it came from or who may have made it.

There are no viable markings on it, just that sun warning sticker that indicates to me any etching couldn't have worn off.

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: m1asmithw8s on December 30, 2014, 09:17:31 AM

Selkirk. Selkirk placeed 'do not place in direct sunlight labels'.

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 30, 2014, 11:21:28 AM

But so do Caithness. I'm sure this is either Caithness, or Border Art Glass.
I think I'm correct in saying this is neodynium glass - that would be another + for Caithness.
Have you trawled through the images in Scotland's Glass yet?

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on December 30, 2014, 11:38:25 AM

Very definitely Caithness, and really isn't Selkirk.

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on December 30, 2014, 11:39:21 AM

Oh and I have never seen a "direct sunlight" type label on a Selkirk weight, and I own about 200 of them......

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 30, 2014, 11:52:03 AM

http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=6&Itemid=6

That's the link to Caithness weight images. I suspect this is fairly recent, if that helps any.

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: misha on December 30, 2014, 12:12:31 PM

I think I'm correct in saying this is neodynium glass

Yes Sue, 100% correct. The last side views image taken under fluro lamps, the rest were afternoon sun.  Distinct colour change.

Internet slow here tonight, but I'll take a look through image search terms your suggesting when I can on a faster pooter, maybe tomorrow. Can't say I've seen similar yet, in my lookin.

The lack of any acid etched or engraved manufacturer is problematic for ID.
Caithness I've seen, very few indeed, have had acid etched ID on base.
Was that treatment standard over the years?

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: Wuff on December 30, 2014, 12:15:20 PM

It is Flower of Scotland by Caithness (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=68&category_id=22&keyword=flower+scotland&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6), first issued 1994.

To make things a bit more confusing - Selkirk also produced a somewhat similar Flower of Scotland (attached image) in 1999.

Not all Caithness weights were signed, but most. Unlimited weights (like this one) may not have the name marked, but a running production number (letter first, followed by up to 5 digits). No marking at all might indicate a second with the "not selected" label "fallen off".

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: misha on December 30, 2014, 12:52:20 PM

http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=68&category_id=14&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6

Beat me to it Wuff... after trolling through hundreds of images on the site Sue provided a link to.. thanks again Sue.  :-*

Flower of Scotland.. indeed.

One thing I must say. NO shortage of imagination when it comes to just this single manufacturer of paperweights!  These could be highly addictive. Best I limit to one for now.

Title: Re: Scottish pwt - but who and when made?
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 30, 2014, 09:00:32 PM

Glad you found it. :)
Despite resolutely not collecting pwts, I do have to confess to the odd Caithness.  ;)