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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Far East (excluding China) => Topic started by: Cathy B on September 08, 2005, 07:25:38 AM

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: Cathy B on September 08, 2005, 07:25:38 AM

http://glassart.5u.com/pictures.html

Thanks to whoever it was who posted this link (was it Anne?) because it solves something I've been wondering for a while (although Ivo or David Fletcher could probably have answered if I'd asked).

http://www.hiandlomodern.com/glassScand.html Scroll to about 1/3 of the way down to "HOT RED-ORANGEORANGE GLASS SWEDISH CANDLESTICKS"

I have seen these labelled "Old Colony Made in Japan", and wondered why there was such a pervasive belief that they were Scandinavian. They are even identified as such in one of the Millers collectables guides.

But I wonder whether it's because they bear a vague resemblance to No. 34 on this page
http://glassart.5u.com/pictures.html

What do you guys think?

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 08, 2005, 09:08:32 AM

:D
Hello Cathy, I think the operative word is "vague", but I think you are right! Well spotted!

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: paradisetrader on September 08, 2005, 10:34:50 AM

Web-speak "probably" =
English "I haven't got a clue but I'm going to throw a name on the table anyway to try and get the outrageous asking price"

The word "probably" should always sound warning bells and flash red lights. It wouldn't be sooo bad I suppose if the name was correct !! Seda !!!! = no such company !!

The correct name is of course Aseda and this mistake comes about because of the stylized initial A on Aseda labels. So they obviously have / had another piece with that label.

What interests me also is that the seller should think that a pair of Aseda candlesticks should warrant a price tag of $160 !!! AND that someone would part with that kind of cash for an item so poorly illustrated with uncertain parentage !!

Yes well spotted Cathy. I think most Japanese glass from the 50s gets passed off at something else as its rare to find on with a label still on. If you do find one its almost worth buying for the label alone if its cheap.

Pete
the newly born-again label fetshist

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 08, 2005, 11:46:38 AM

There's one of these candlesticks on the WF site - also described as Old Colony Japan.

Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: Frank on September 08, 2005, 07:22:33 PM

Probably!

What is wrong with traditional auction speak of:

Attributed to...

In the manner of...

School of...

etc. Means the same thing usually :wink:

Title: A mystery solved
Post by: JC on September 10, 2005, 01:40:46 AM

Thanks Cathy,
That is 3 mysteries solved for me.
I have the Old Colony sitting around here, been waiting for me to stumble on an ID for it.
I also have a Stella Polaris bottle designed by Nanny Smith  plus  Pala designed by Helen Tynell, sitting amoung my glass collection UN indentified. I am hoping the last 2 items I mention do have the correct name and designer attirubuted to them on that website.
  :)  
Julie