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Good afternoon,

I am curious of the origin of my blue Vase with a thick wall and with fine air bubbles and white speckles.
High 19 cm, diam. ground 5 cm, diam above 5 cm, Weight 1124 Gram.
Does someone recognise this vase?

With kind regards,

Egbert
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In 1859 in this publication there is an advertisement on page 154 for John Ford, Holyrood Flint Glass Works - offering all sorts of wares in their warehouses including 'A beautiful assortment of foreign ornamental glass articles'.

https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Official_Illustrated_Guide_to_the_La/mxZbAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=holyrood+flint+glass+company&pg=RA2-PA154&printsec=frontcover

I know Neuwelt (Harrach) were supplying for Osler but can't remember the dates at the moment.  So there was trade from Bohemia.
In addition  mirrored glass vases were being made in the 1840s using glass supplied from Germany.

The advert above for John Ford was 22 years later than the Queen Victoria banquet at the Guildhall but it begs the question as to whether Davenport's  Longport and other makers were all stocking 'a beautiful assortment of foreign ornamental glass articles' ... in the 1830s?

Davenport's gathered a vast array of glass and china at very short notice (19 days iirc?). 
I can't see how they'd have organised that with other makers,  via snail mail requests, in the time they had after they were given the contract to supply.  And that in addition to their 8mph horse and coaches.

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Glass / Re: Info on James Powell Topaz glass - "The Queen Victoria Topaz bowl"
« Last post by flying free on January 12, 2025, 08:18:49 PM »
Interesting set of samples of glass from John Ford Holyrood Glassworks 1866 here:
Quote from Science Museum Group

'https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co18828/collection-of-glassware-and-materials-from-john-ford
Made:
1866 in Edinburgh
Collection of glassware and materials from John Ford, Holyrood Flint Glass Works, Edinburgh, 1866, with booklet "Manufacture of Flint Glass" by Pellatt and Co.'


And a post here on social media from Edinburgh Museums showing a tumbler in uranium glass made by Holyrood Flint Glass Works c.1885-1886:
https://x.com/EdinCulture/status/1853770450708423017
Quote post:
'Day 5 #Museum30 - Glow.
Uranium glass made by Holyrood Flint Glassworks, #Edinburgh 1885-1886. Radioactive.'

(Note: To me this is a terrible photo - on black paper,doesn't show the colour of the glass properly, neither does it show the glow under uv)


More information here on Holyrood Flint Glass Works with a picture of the cutting and engraving workshop:
https://www.artisansinscotland.shca.ed.ac.uk/items/show/50

I read somewhere there was a warehouse in Edinburgh and that they stocked parian ware etc.  I wonder if they were importers/merchants as well as glassmakers?

With regard to my last question above:

Link here with a list of invoices sent to John Ford for various items of pottery, porcelain, glass etc - see page 11 of 2038.

hmm, the link doesn't work but I have seen this list and I think it's from the Edinburgh Museums and Galleries.  It also includes the list of letters from Leighton to Ford with a brief detail of the subject in each letter, including the one of 1839 mentioning recipe for canary glass (but not the detailed information of that request, just the subject matter):

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://edinburgh.axlr8.uk/documents/34299/34299%20Museums%20and%20Galleries%20Edinburgh%20(MGE)%20Collections%20Catalogue.pdf

admittedly the list of invoices on that page 11 appear to start 1850s but it does seem to imply they were a warehouse for other manufacturers.  At what date that started to be the case I've no idea.

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Glass / Re: Info on James Powell Topaz glass - "The Queen Victoria Topaz bowl"
« Last post by flying free on January 12, 2025, 07:55:33 PM »
Also this question.
 I'm the first to admit I know nothing about Ford (Holyrood Flint Glass works) or Thomas Leighton but for some mistaken reason I believed Leighton had worked for John Ford.  Did he work for a Samuel Ford?
 
This is the family history of Thomas Leighton here:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Leighton-1547
I think I was mistaken - it seems he didn't work for John Ford at Holyrood Glass works?

or is that information slightly incorrect?
https://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58
It seems to say here that Old Caledonian glass became Holyrood glass ... I think  :-\ ???

Very confused.
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Glass / Re: Info on James Powell Topaz glass - "The Queen Victoria Topaz bowl"
« Last post by flying free on January 12, 2025, 07:40:13 PM »
Thanks so much Cagney.

I see what you mean about the Apsley Pellatt designs being similar to the bowl.

Re the additional information in the letters, my reading is:
the first comment implies Leighton had thought he'd never make uranium glass?
the second implies it was glass he'd seen in the warehouse acknowledging it could have been from somewhere else, and does not explicitly imply made by Ford/Holyrood?  or did I misunderstand?
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Thank you Ekimp. That's a lovely resource.
I'll have a good look through Truitt's Bohemian Glass and the Harrach book this week and see if I can match any of the designs.

m
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Glass / Re: Victorian Blue Opalene Bristol? Glass Vase Walter Crane?? Vase
« Last post by LEGSY on January 11, 2025, 10:33:41 AM »
fanastic really appreciate the replies and the links below showing a blue tall vase with very
similar bird decoration i believe that the shadows are from gilding and there would have been
more lines on the lower foot section. Thank you so much for help in identifying both a solid
area of production and dates also it is always lovely to know what you have.
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Glass / Re: Info on James Powell Topaz glass - "The Queen Victoria Topaz bowl"
« Last post by cagney on January 11, 2025, 10:26:07 AM »
   Looking at the Apsley Pellat catalog I can see all the design elements of the cutting and the basic shape of the QV bowl.

  I did not realize that I have the 1992, vol. 3 edition of the Acorn. Bought back in the day for the other article [ Sandwich Glass catalog & price list c.1874]. The only other comments directly concerning Canary glass that hasn't been said already is at the end of the 1839 letter to John Ford Leighton states " I do not think I will ever make a pot of it ". Also mentioned is " the glass I seen in your warehouse ". Spillman published only five of the nine letters residing at the Huntly House Museum of Edinburgh. Much more info to be gleaned from these letters not related to this thread.
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Glass / Re: Victorian Blue Opalene Bristol? Glass Vase Walter Crane?? Vase
« Last post by Lustrousstone on January 11, 2025, 10:26:05 AM »
The discoloured rim is probably where gilding has been lost. You can see where it is missing round the base too. It doesn't last anywhere near as well as enamel. Lids for these vases are ornamental and simply pop inside like this one http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=890. This one isn't the sort of shape that I would expect to have had a lid
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Glass / Re: Victorian Blue Opalene Bristol? Glass Vase Walter Crane?? Vase
« Last post by thewingedsphinx on January 10, 2025, 09:56:04 PM »
The rim is discoloured, I’ve just seen a similar vase on Pinterest ( sorry cannot share a link but it did say Bristol glass vase) ( yes I know it’s not Bristol) which had a thin brass looking rim with a lip, so I presume the lid would have had similar so that it was a snug fit.
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