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Title: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Nick77 on January 07, 2013, 01:42:25 PM

[Mod: Feb 2015 - later thread now merged with this one. Both items have same cane structures. Maker is currently unknown.]

Another I just cannot find a match for Murano or Bohemian and how old?

Thanks in advance
Nick

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: alpha on January 07, 2013, 02:09:39 PM

circa 1980 - Goebel of Italy

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Nick77 on January 07, 2013, 02:18:29 PM

Thanks but I've only heard of Goebel as a German glass company, do you have any links to the Italian one, is it part of the same company?

Nick

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: chriscooper on January 07, 2013, 03:52:32 PM

Had Murano 'type' weights before with a Gold and black circular label reading House of Goebel Italy before maybe an Import/Export label?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-ITALY-GOEBEL-Paperweight-RED-HEARTS-ORIGINAL-TAG-FREE-SHIPPING-/380414437660

Also Crystal and pottery items on eBay but with West Germany on the label, most appear to be coming from the States?

Chris

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: shandiane78 on February 04, 2015, 08:58:46 PM

It's about 7.5" tall. Thanks for looking!

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Sach on February 06, 2015, 01:12:45 AM

Very distinctive cane style.....

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: shandiane78 on February 06, 2015, 01:19:21 AM

That's what I thought too! I haven't seen any like this before, and haven't had luck tracking any down. I was hoping someone would recognize the style. Thanks for looking!

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: mildawg on February 06, 2015, 02:25:15 AM

My first guess would be John Deacons?

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: LesBeatiques on February 09, 2015, 06:32:42 AM

I believe that this is Murano...I've seen similar canes in more traditional paperweight forms. This piece is exceptionally large and seem well executed.

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Nick77 on February 09, 2015, 11:22:24 AM

It's the same maker as this one I listed in a previous thread   

[Mod: link to original thread removed. The two threads are now merged.]

reply was that it was Goebel, Italy. Also was really high quality compared to the average Murano weight.

Nick

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: shandiane78 on February 09, 2015, 12:36:46 PM

Oh wow, THANK YOU, NICK! Those canes are spot on. Thanks again!

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 09, 2015, 02:06:51 PM

The question is of course who actually them made for House of Goebel, as it's a marketing brand

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: shandiane78 on February 09, 2015, 10:14:54 PM

So true, Christine. It would be wonderful to know. At least now I have something to go on! I honestly couldn't place these canes at all, and I didn't think they were Italian.

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: gleaming on November 17, 2016, 04:40:07 PM

[Mod: Nov 2016. Here's another example with the same cane types.]

This is a great newsgroup.   I wonder if I could trouble you with an identification of a very large pedestal-type mushroom paperweight.   It is about 6-1/2 inches tall and about 4-1/2 inches in diameter.  There are about 60 canes of around 3-1/2 inches in length that make up the mushroom (for about 17 linear feet of canes!)   There are three star-shaped canes in the midst of the millefiori canes. 

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: gleaming on November 17, 2016, 05:32:33 PM

I have been enjoyng reading some of the recent threads, and I noticed this inquiry regarding a smaller mushroom paperweight that has similar canes to this mushroom pedestal paperweight:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,50911.0.html

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: KevinH on November 18, 2016, 12:57:26 AM

Well spotted, Gleaming. Yes same cane types. I will merge this thread with the one you linked to.

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: gleaming on November 18, 2016, 01:10:12 AM

Thank you, KevinH!

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Gowdod on November 18, 2016, 07:34:33 AM

I've seen the link mentioned and the mushroom above. My initial reaction was could this be from Fratelli Toso?

Kind Regards

Andrew

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: Nick77 on September 13, 2017, 06:30:10 PM

I've been meaning to find and add to this thread I have since seen a few weights with Fratelli Toso labels featuring the same canes heres one on ebay currently (not mine)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-FRATELLI-TOSO-MURANO-MILLEFIORI-GLASS-PAPERWEIGHT-WITH-ORIGINAL-LABEL-/322729350234?hash=item4b242b145a:g:ISYAAOSw311ZtDHr (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-FRATELLI-TOSO-MURANO-MILLEFIORI-GLASS-PAPERWEIGHT-WITH-ORIGINAL-LABEL-/322729350234?hash=item4b242b145a:g:ISYAAOSw311ZtDHr)

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: gleaming on September 13, 2017, 06:52:27 PM

Thanks, Nick!   Here is another paperweight I noticed that has the same canes:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MILLEFIORI-PAPERWEIGHT-MUSHROOM-SCOTTISH-PMCD-St-Louis-Style-Murano-/272820350015?hash=item3f855c2c3f:g:Gw4AAOSwtVxZeIGX

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: KevinH on September 14, 2017, 12:15:31 AM

The label on the weight in the link from Nick in Reply #27 is certainly Fratelli Toso. We have an example of that label in the Murano 101 section for Labels, Marks and Signatures in the GlassGallery site. See: http://www.yobunny.org.uk/glassgallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1909

Maybe I will search for Fratelli Toso in past threads to see if I can find the weight that the label was from - but it might take a while. :)

Title: Re: Murano or Bohemian. ID = Italy - "Goebel Import", maker unknown
Post by: gleaming on September 14, 2017, 12:25:03 PM

Thank you, KevinH, for your great research and knowledge!