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British & Irish Glass / Re: Honey pot ?
« Last post by Lustrousstone on July 20, 2021, 11:34:56 AM »
I think Anne right; it's also in bottle brown.
Glass / Re: Painted Art Nouveau style Bohemian? bowl - concerned about the painting
« Last post by NevB on July 20, 2021, 10:49:55 AM »
I'd say it is better than you think, it looks to be nice quality. The painting may be by the original maker or on a blank sold on to someone to be decorated. I would guess Bohemian, late 19th. century, maker unknown.
I think the silver collar would have been fitted to a raised neck. Perhaps it got broken off and the neck was then ground back to make a vase. Pity the silvers missing as it could have given you a date and complete they fetch good prices  :(.
Glass / Re: Frosted decanter.
« Last post by Paul S. on July 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM »
agree, probably ever since Lord Elgin relieved them of their Marbles  -  it's plain enough not to appear too OTT yet has that classical connection  -  it appears prolifically on hand cut, acid etched and to some extent on pressed glass  -  mostly as a geometric border.
Glass / Re: Frosted decanter.
« Last post by Ekimp on July 20, 2021, 08:08:10 AM »
Hi, thanks for looking. Yes, I canít see the marks being made any other way. Iím sure the decanter was spun on a lathe as the marks are parallel around the diameter and as Paul says, if it was just a rotating abrasive held against the decanter, then you would see a different pattern of marks. Itís hard to see how stuff was frosted unless you get a close look at the surface.

The Greek key certainly seems to be a popular motif over many years. :)
Glass / Re: Cut glass, floral engraving, metal rim, star cut base, Art Nouveau.
« Last post by Paul S. on July 20, 2021, 07:24:52 AM »
sorry, forgot you didn't have this one in the hand and if it is pewter, then polishing is the last thing your friend should do - it removes that dull patina that pewter acquires which makes it look like .....................  pewter.   
Glass / Re: Frosted decanter.
« Last post by AdrianW on July 20, 2021, 12:27:51 AM »
I bought this as I wanted an example of antique acid frosting (and it was very cheap ;) ). I was sure it was going to be acid frosting when looking at it in the shop, but on getting it home and looking through modest magnification, it was apparent that it is another example of mechanical frosting. This has probably been achieved using an abrasive wheel (or possibly a pad) held against the surface while the body was rotated in a lathe of sorts. You can see the striations in the finish from the rotation of the body against an abrasive and also areas where the wheel hasnít got into the corner at the base - so not sandblasting or acid etching.

I think this method of abrading the surface to create a frosted effect is actually very common (it is in the glass I come across) and maybe on victorian glass it is the norm, rather than the exception.

There is no stopper but there is an etched Ď2í in the neck. I believe it dates to somewhere in the Victorian period, there is similar Greek key and frosted decoration here:,62608.msg351508.html#msg351508 with discussion on dating of Greek key cutting, Paul S. says Greek key suggests 1860s - 1880s.

FWIW I agree with you regarding the technique used - I think the piece was probably turned on a lathe whilst being rubbed with something abrasive.

The texture suggests mechanical abrasion rather than acid. The pattern of the texture suggests either the piece or the abrasive was being rotated.

I haven't found your vase, but there are a number of lamp shades that use a combination of frosted and greek key patterns:

None of them are that close, but they are all part frosted with greek key motifs.
Glass / Re: Cut glass, floral engraving, metal rim, star cut base, Art Nouveau.
« Last post by AdrianW on July 20, 2021, 12:02:46 AM »
thanks Adrian  -  I could be very wrong, and just my very personal opinion, but I'd have thought unlikely the rim would be pewter  -  does it say that or is there some more speculation here ;D     If not Sterling, or EPNS, then I'd have gone for a chrome type finish, and that can often become dark after half a century or more - similar to how EPNS behaves.

Thanks Paul! Remember I haven't held it, I've only seen the photos you've seen. My friend is pretty certain it's pewter though, and it's her vase? Apparently there are no markings on the rim whatsoever, other than that mild semi-planished look on the top surface. Knowing the individual I think it's likely she would have tried polishing it at some stage :)
Glass / Re: Iridescent floriform-ish glass vase - Bohemian (Kralik?)
« Last post by AdrianW on July 19, 2021, 11:58:16 PM »
That was it.  8)
But it is a lovely and very useful site. It's easy to find Rindskopf at the side, so I just posted the link to the whole thing. You never know when the other bits might come in handy.

Thanks Sue! Agreed; it's a great site, I just wish there were more sites like it! I'd love to get the shape confirmed as being known Rindskopf too...
Could it be a Webb perfume bottle? There are many online with silver collars and tops but not one with the same decoration as yours, Webb did do a Convolvulus pattern. Yours looks slightly rough around the rim where the collar would have fitted and the size is right.

Thank you Nev; I think you're almost certainly correct. The two layer red/white cameos are usually Webb attributed, and as you say, they did do a Convolvulus pattern. I was put off the scent by this being very different in weight/feel/construction to my other Webb cameo vases.

I also think you could be right about it being a perfume bottle stripped of the silver mount - if so, that's somewhat annoying, but would explain the chipping...

Good shout; thank you!
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