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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: glasswizard on August 18, 2005, 04:29:31 PM
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OK it's an ashtray :D I have been trying to ID this piece for many years. I have checked all my books and nothing. One company I can't rule out is LE Smith. Does anyone know if they did stuff like this ? Thanks Terry
(http://tinypic.com/aoxkqg.jpg)
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I would have to say that slag glass is collected just for itself. But as with anything else, a known maker adds to the value. I have seen the prices of Imperial slag climb over the years where today some of the rarer pieces can fetch a nice sum. Terry
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I've seen that colour in 1950s French pressglass - from Opalex I think
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Did you rule out Boyd, Terry?
Glen
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Yes Glen, Boyd is out of the running for a good reason. Boyd marks all of there items and in a way that is really unique. Boyd bought all the molds of the Degenheart co. with the stipulation that they remove the D in a heart mark. They did this and added their own mark a B in a Diamond. They used this mark for 5 years starting in 1978. In 1983 they added a line to the bottom of the mark and used that for 5 years. In 1988 they added a line on top. Every five years they would add a line until 1998 when the mark became a B in a diamond in a box. Starting in 2003 they then added a small B to the upper left hand corner of the the box. Thus you can date a piece of Boyd within a five year period. The ashtray alas has no mark at all. And since Boyd did not begin until 1978, I think the design of this predates that.
Ivo could well be right. It is a strange color and I have seen a picture of a pitcher or ewer not sure exactly what it was the same color, unfortunately it was also an unknown and now I can't remember where I saw it. Terry
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Ivo
Wouldn't it have a raised molded Opalex or France or both ...?
as shown in 4th and 5th pics here ? http://www.grammytique.com/Items3/HIJ16.htm
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you would expect it to marked whoever made it. All Opalex I have seen is marked - that is how I know they used a similar colour. :shock:
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Thanks for all that Terry - but, yes, I'm actually very familiar indeed with Boyd's history and marks. In fact I wrote a very full section on Boyd: its history, its products, etc., etc., plus illustrations, in the Contemporary Carnival Glass part of "A Century of Carnival Glass". I communicated with John Boyd in the course of my research and he gave me some very interesting extra material that is in the book.
I only asked you as I simply wondered if you had ruled them out (as of course, they have made some very interesting and unusual colors).
I know now that you have ruled them out :lol:
Glen