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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on April 18, 2010, 03:33:00 PM

Title: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars? ID = Whitefriars #9660
Post by: Paul S. on April 18, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
there was a time I picked up the occasional example  -  but they always turned out to be Ikea  -  so I gave up looking.    This one is substantial and heavy -  large 43mm diameter pontil (nicely polished) -  270mm long  -  110mm high  -  but as usual for me, not signed.    Base has enough wear to come from the late Bronze Age.   Grateful if anyone does recognise this one, and my thanks as always for looking.  
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish.
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
Have you looked a Whitefriars?
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish.
Post by: Paul S. on April 18, 2010, 06:00:59 PM
thanks  -  no, in fact I hadn't.   But I have now :), and it certainly looks very similar to pattern 9660 - the Oval Bowl in 'Willow' (page 135  -  plate 147 in Leslie Jackson).   Has that almost imperceptible bulge half way up/down, which can just be seen in the picture if you look very carefully, also has a quite distinctive rise at the higher end.   Tended not to think of wfrs. and free form, which obviously a mistake, and I will now go into the wfrs.com catalogues and look to see if the size matches.     My sincere thanks to you as always Lustrousstone.   It was a quid at the boot sale ;)
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Cathy B on April 19, 2010, 06:02:55 AM
Tweaked your title a bit to try to attract one of the Whitefriars collectors.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Paul S. on April 19, 2010, 09:37:23 AM
thanks Cathy.      cheers              Paul S.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: vidrioguapo on April 19, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
I'd say it is right for 9660 Willow if it has a greenish tinge which it looks to have or Pewter if it is grey.  Retailed for 78 shillings at the time - LOL!  Just a bit of silly info!
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Pinkspoons on April 19, 2010, 10:51:08 AM
Yup - Emmi's spot on. I've had a couple of these in the past in this colourway.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Paul S. on April 19, 2010, 12:34:39 PM
thanks to both of you.    However, may be a hiccup on my part insofar as Jackson shows only the 'Willow', and after Lustrousstone mentioned Wfrs. I got a bit of tunnel vision re the picture in the book.   Will look carefully again tonight, just to make sure it isn't the 'Pewter' version as mentioned by Emmi  -  not so easy to tell the colours some times just from the pictures that we post.      Nothing silly at all to add a little history re the price  -  I was actually around then, and 78 bob, or three pounds eighteen shillings, was a substatial amount of shekels/ackers.     When I picked it out of a box on Sunday morning it was covered in grot/grime/muck, but it was the weight I think that made me think it had to be a bit special.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: vidrioguapo on April 19, 2010, 12:49:40 PM
LOL! You can't possibly be as old as I am.  I was just working at that time and think that was about half  my weekly wage...........and was spending that on paint and Pollyfilla for my first house.......could only put my milkbottles on a shelf for decoration!  Those were the days my friend, thought they'd never end!!! Sorry, getting nostalgic.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Paul S. on April 19, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
If like me you can remember Mary Hopkin - then well ..............strueth we must be old ;)             Paul S.
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: johnphilip on April 19, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
Hi Paul you will find if have anything green in the room pewter will look like Willow , yours looks pewter to me but Emmi is good with colours .jp
Title: Re: id request please on 'free form' dish. Whitefriars?
Post by: Paul S. on April 19, 2010, 07:12:07 PM
thanks jp  -  and having looked again, think I will agree with you and revise this to 'Pewter'.