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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: Anne on September 22, 2005, 12:44:16 AM

Title: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne on September 22, 2005, 12:44:16 AM

Can anyone identify the maker of this blue oval bowl please?

Not marked in any way. Any info as to maker/age would be welcome, thanks!

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 22, 2005, 07:51:46 AM

Hi Anne.  Yayyy someone else with a bowl like mine.  Your blue oval one.  I have one in a sort of peachy colour.  I've spent some time over the last couple of days trying to identify it without success.  However, your posting made me relook at it.  What I thought was a scratch on the base, turns out to be a mark.  It is so tiny and so faint, that I had to look through a powerful lens. :shock:  :shock:    It is marked CZECHOSLOVAKIA.  I would never have spotted it without a lens.  The mark is inbetween two of the feet, near to the edge, and is in a straight line.

Regards - t'other Anne :P

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: paradisetrader on September 22, 2005, 10:19:39 AM

Czech
I have a creamer in pink (peach) in the same pattern
I'll do a pic

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-34

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne on September 22, 2005, 01:41:51 PM

(T'other) Anne,  thank you! I likewise went over mine again with the lens etc as above but cannot find any mark anywhere. Is yours absolutely identical? On mine the textured rings have a sort of leaf pattern in them... is yours the same?

Leni, yes! That's very similar even down to the leaves on the textured bands. Thank you, I'd missed that.

Yes, same pattern again Peter.  :)

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 22, 2005, 04:39:26 PM

Some pics. for you to look at Anne.  The bowl measures just over 10" long x 8" wide (in the middle) x 3" high.  There is a splodgy "leaf" relief pattern on two outside bands.    I took a pic. of the marks.  These are so easy to miss believe me. Each letter must be no more than 1mm long.  I had to take a macro-pic, through another lens in order for them to be seen.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/czech016.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/czech013.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/czech030.jpg

Anne - just spotted this vase which shares more than a passing likeness to your blue and my peach/pink bowl - and possibly from the same maker.
http://www.1st-glass.1st-things.com/gallery-deco/slides/artdecovaseamber01.html

Regards - Anne E.B.

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne on September 23, 2005, 10:16:41 PM

Thanks for your photos Anne, yep it's the same bowl, but I have no marks on mine at all visible. I've been over its bottom feeling for anything that could conceivably be a mark as well and nothing at all. I suppose it could be from a mould that is so worn the lettering has faded to nothing?

Also I agree with the vase on 1st Glassman... I'd not noticed that before, but it looks like it's from the same design series.  I wonder who made them and what else they did and in what other colours? So far we've seen our oval bowls, Pamela's footed bowl, and now Tony's vase - in blue, pink and amber.

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: pamela on November 01, 2005, 09:10:00 PM

Anne, may I return to your blue bowl including Anne E.B.'s post on Czech please  :)
You were led to my footed tazza and I have to admit to possess another pink item (lidded dish - do not know where the photo disappeared  :? ) in the same pattern. I investigated both today very thoroughly - unfortunately no Czech mark and the more as I investigate them the newer they seem to me   :'(  :'(  :'(
the comparable Walther pattern was named UNIVERSUM with just one circle of lunae - sorry...

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne on November 01, 2005, 11:53:51 PM

Thanks Pamela, I've seen a few of the same pattern for sale on eBay, various colours and in a range of objects from plates, bowls, to jugs and I think a vase. Some are totally clear and others are a mix of clear and frosted glass.

They do look both art deco and yet modern, so are a puzzle.  T'other Anne (Anne E B) has one with the word Czechoslovakia - very small and feint she says, " The mark is in between two of the feet, near to the edge, and is in a straight line."

Until we can find out more I think we'll have to put it down as possible Czech of uncertain age... but I'll keep searching!  8)

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne on March 19, 2008, 08:31:17 PM

Update re the blue bowl of this topic... whilst browsing Pamela's brilliant website I spotted her bowls the same pattern here: http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/05159.html and see they are now attributed to Stoelzle. :)

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 20, 2008, 07:25:58 PM

Well done Anne - and Pamela too 8)

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: pamela on March 20, 2008, 08:40:31 PM

on pressglas-pavillon please also see boxes, milk and sugar, vases  ;D

Title: Re: Blue oval bowl = Stoelzle
Post by: Sklounion on March 20, 2008, 09:41:09 PM

Pamela,
Your box: pattern number 19418,
vase: pattern number 19410,
pedestal bowl: 19428
milk jug: 19413
Regards,
Marcus