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Title: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on May 16, 2011, 11:28:43 AM
This vase bugs me it looks very sloppy in its manufacture no care taken in it at all it makes me think its a run of the mill victaorian mass produced item or a recent chinese etc copy it appears to have a slight opaline colour i think its known as you cant see through it in narural light either, The enamel is very plain etc just wondering what its known as or from when??? It measures 15" coul :vkg:d it be a decanter??
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: ahremck on May 16, 2011, 11:56:36 AM
If it was a decanter I would expect to find some evidence of the inside of the neck being ground so the stopper would fit correctly.

I can see your problem - to me it seems modern.  That pontil is a bit unlikely from an older item, but entirely likely these days, when finish for so much glass is "quick & dirty".

Ross
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 16, 2011, 01:53:06 PM
I think you'll find it's ceramic rather than glass.
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on May 16, 2011, 02:03:24 PM
90% sure glass christine!!!
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 16, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
Not with that base...
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on May 16, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
Well you learn something new every day any ideas what it is??? Thanks very much by the way  :smg:
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: Cathy B on May 17, 2011, 04:13:27 AM
I would have said ceramic too, but why the weird rough mark in the centre? Is that from a kiln stand?
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: Ivo on May 17, 2011, 06:00:58 AM
I vote glass.
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 17, 2011, 06:30:58 AM
Is the foot hollow? Can you see light through it if you shine a torch down it? Whatever it is, I don't think it's Victorian; the enamel colours are just the wrong shades - too bright and primary (and I don't mean not faded).
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: flying free on May 17, 2011, 07:28:37 AM
It think it is glass too.  Can you get a better shot of the base so it shows any wear around the rim?  or can you look at it in the light under a magnifying glass to see if there is a matt ring round the base which would show any wear?
It looks in remarkably good condition.
m
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:42 AM
Gowd this is a puzzler the rim appears to have an applied trail around it as maybe can be seen in the last photograph, I have shone a torch down but its very dark and dirty with lots of stuff stuck down there at present i will try to wash out when i get home tonight but the torch does shine through higher up the vase it appaears to be a spearmint colour and you can see almost like swirls similar to slag glass but obviously all in similar colours so hard to make out have managed to get hold of a jewellers magnifying tool and the snapped pontil scar ive looked at and it does look like glass on the areas around the scar you can see the clear snapped glass still!!! would say the wear doesnt seem very great to the base but using a magnifyer you can see spots of wear as the base isnt very flat i guess this would be where it catches the floor these small areas are worn!!
Will try and get some more shots this evening and post them thanks
Title: Re: Old bottle vase maybe recent maybe victorian glass???
Post by: flying free on May 17, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
have you got a blacklight?  Might  be worth trying that on it.
m