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Title: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 03, 2012, 03:38:12 PM
Had this a while, and cannot track down the signature.

The vase is 31cm tall and graduates from bright uranium yellow to a deep apple-green. Very well made and quite weighty. Base ground/polished, with an indented pontil mark.

Signature reads 'Murano...' ...something-or-other. Looks a little like the Cenedese signature... if the person signing it fell asleep part halfway through.  ;D

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 03, 2012, 03:40:36 PM
No clue at all -- Just a guess " Murano Venice "   :huh2:

 :pb:
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 03, 2012, 03:48:27 PM
I hope not - because that wouldn't help me find out who made it!  :24:

Still, it would be better than one of my thoughts - that someone has halfheartedly tried to fake a Venini signature.  :-X
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 03, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
..... that someone has halfheartedly tried to fake a Venini signature.  :-X

Or that too....but I do not know. 


I just think they fell asleep while signing it  :sleep:               :24:
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: dirk. on February 03, 2012, 05:24:55 PM
Cenedese?
With a long loop at the beginning of the ´C´?  :-\
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 03, 2012, 05:44:35 PM
I did consider a wonky Cenedese signature, but I've never seen any Cenedese with 'Murano' also engraved.
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: ardy on February 04, 2012, 07:03:35 AM
I would say owner with dremel. Although the signature looks different work to the Murano. Maybe a genuine signature and someone added Murano????

 :help: I'm going mad!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 04, 2012, 10:48:35 AM
I considered this too, given that at first glance it's a Cenedese-esque sig but on reading it you could fit 'Venini' into the letters. But I thought that, on reflection, the hand that signed the piece probably looked a little too assured to be a casual faker.

That, and the brain's a funny old place when confronted with apparently random data - finding patterns and messages in it that simply don't exist.

But... pretty much every fake sig I've ever seen has been a grotesque childish scrawl. So if it were by a professional faker, experienced with engraving glass, you would've thought they'd have at least made it legibly like an existing signature.  ;D
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: ardy on February 04, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
Hi Nic - I don't think it is like other Cenendese signatures I have seen. They have all been fairly neat although as they were normally done by someone other than the maker. Here is a thread I started but the signature was from ebay and it is gone but it is nothing like yours. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,29948.0.html

The one my friend has is similar to this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/art-of-glass/6455336087/

I am sure this only adds to confusion.
Title: Re: Graduated Uranium Glass Bottle Vase w/ Mystery Signature
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 06, 2012, 04:35:00 AM
Oh, I didn't mean it was a carbon copy of a Cenedese sig (although I own / have owned about 20 pieces of signed Cenedese - and are some are signed a little more neatly than others  ;D), but rather that it shared some features if you glanced quickly at it, like the loop on the first letter that may (or may not) be a 'C'.

A handful of varied Cenedese sigs:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/4b-8.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/DSCF6044.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/3b-64.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/3b-66.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/4b-29.jpg