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Title: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 03, 2016, 01:26:32 PM

Arrived today and identified by Warren as Harrach c. 1865, 13 inches tall, I'm sure the mark says W & H, can't get a better image, the second picture is closer to the actual colour. ;D

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: flying free on February 03, 2016, 04:27:56 PM

Hi keith

Is it transfer printed?  and is it possible to get a clear close up of the picture please when you have time?

Also, just curious, is the top rim cut and polished flat or is it firepolished?

Nice :)

m

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 03, 2016, 07:30:58 PM

Hello M, thought you might notice this one  ;D it appears to be transfer printed with dark lines and gilding finished by hand, the rim is round then gilded, best I could do with the pictures...

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: flying free on February 03, 2016, 07:34:01 PM

Thanks for the pictures.  Does the base have a polished pontil mark?
m

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 03, 2016, 08:40:41 PM

Have you looked at the picture through a lens? If it's printed you should be able to see the dots from where the transfer was screen printed.

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 04, 2016, 02:16:19 PM

Had a good look just with a lens , it has no dots and is very smooth, all 'painted' then ?  ;D

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 04, 2016, 02:21:41 PM

Yep, painted, though the outlines might be a transfer - check them

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 04, 2016, 05:10:38 PM

No dots anywhere, the lines look painted and in answer to m's question it has no pontil mark.

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: flying free on February 06, 2016, 10:39:51 PM

the stamped mark is interesting isn't it?  I wonder what period it dates to, to be handpainted and to have a stamped mark (retailer mark maybe?)
There is reference in the Harrach book to orders from Harrach for specific companies, but none are 'W & H' that I can see.  I wonder who they were? maybe a retailer in the Midlands perhaps?
Walker and Hall is the only company I can think of and they were/are silver/goldsmiths in Sheffield - however the ampersand isn't designed in the same way as their hallmark (although there may have been earlier versions than I've found) and I'd have thought it may have been if it were for them.
m

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 06, 2016, 11:32:31 PM

Strange, Walker & Hall was the first name I thought of, Warren Galle put a date of around 1865 and , if I remember right called it a particular name, I'll get back to that. Like you say it may have been an English retail mark, I'll do more googling  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on February 07, 2016, 12:10:17 AM

Warren described it as a 'Irrweg' vase ( infinite path ) a German translation says 'on the wrong path' so which I have no idea, he also said these were made for the English market.

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: flying free on February 07, 2016, 12:47:51 AM

I think that refers to the meander decoration?
m

Title: Re: Large Harrach 'Etruscan' style vase.
Post by: keith on May 06, 2018, 06:48:28 PM

Another of this type turned up today at the glass fair, couldn't resist, as usual ! 14 inches tall no marks  ::) ;D ;D