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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: glassmagpie on January 31, 2008, 05:28:52 PM
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Firstly thank you to everyone who helped me identify my last piece of glass. Well been dragged around the sales again by my daughter the trade off being she didn't moan about being dragged into every charity shop we passed. During this expedition I found 2 pieces that have definitely got me flummoxed, they have a frosted finish but I feel that the glass has been cut rather than moulded before being frosted - may be wishful thinking on my part as that seems a bit overkill- the smaller is 8" high and the larger 12"
Mod: two part question split into separate topics
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I believe the technique for your two 'petrol' blue vases would be called Battuto. But I have to say, if I found two vases of a matching style in a charity shop, I'd be concerned they modern representations and not attributable to one particular designer. I know from experience that battuto style vases have appeared in TKMaxx, and although I was sorely tempted, I didn't purchase (I have enough glass to sink a battleship as it is!) .
Maybe someone with a better knowledge than me might be able to assist?
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Hi Max i may be wrong but my understanding of Battuto is a beaten effect like someone has gone all over it with a small square hammer or chiseled of little random pieces and left unpolished or semi polished.
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Photo 17 is the base of the larger vase in 16. I don't think the vases are that recent they are very heavy. I have tried to photograph the markings close up, not a brilliant camera but what people are saying about chisled does make sense with what I was trying to describe about the feel of the pattern - any suggestions as to makers, if any one wants more photos of anything in particular let me know and I'll have a go. thank you for the information so far
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I saw a TKMax "battuto" with an IVV label.
These are not quite the same pattern / effect but similar and could also be IVV.
Ed.
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I also believe these "battuto" pieces are recent. There was one posted a while back on the ebay PGP board. Laura (planetglass) said it was possibly from India. They are still nice quality, as the surface is cut, not molded. The first one, I think, is probably an oil lamp missing it's wick.
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Ed, what does the IVV label stand for?
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Hi Shannon,
IVV = Industria Vetraria Valdarnese [Source: Miller's Glass fact file a-z, Ivo Haanstra, ISBN 1-84000-429-0]
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Hi I just remembered i have a very large vase with the satin finish it has a dimpled centre panel that is all battuto it also has a Dartington studio label.I read somewhere that Charlie Meaker did this style of work for Dartington.I also believe that Anne was looking into Dartington Studio.
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Yes, I was wondering about Dartington Studio for these JP. I have a Dartington vase packed away upstairs somewhere which hasn't yet been photographed so I can't compare it directly, but there are similarities from memory. I've to go into the room the glass is stored in later today so I'll dig it out and get a pic done for comparison. Mine is labelled so it'll be a good ref point.
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Reply to Anne, thank you for your thoughts as to whether it could be Dartington, I live about 6 miles from Dartington Hall and we get loads of the more common Dartington glass turning up at car boots and in the charity shops thats a definate possibility. I found a nipple candle holder in midnight at the same charity shop, haven't seen one in that form before, its like the vases but shorter and with the candleholder neck you seen on the squat daisy candleholders.
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Might be Jozefina glass?
http://www.jozefina.pl/23E.html
There are others on that site too, couldn't find this one though.
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My Money is still on Dartington Studio,even more now i know the owner lives in the area.It would be nice if we could find someone who worked there.
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Hi JP thank for your info, Dartington glass is created at Torrington which is a bit of a way from Dartington so don't know anyone who works at the glass works but I think I might pop along to Dartington and see if there is anyone there who can give me an idea of whether it is Dartington Studio or not, if anyone can come up with any more info thank you in advance.
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Just looking at Rosenthal Crystal, for some other bits i just got in a charity shop, and found
this picture/link,
http://www.luxurycrystal.com/rosenthal-crystal-vases-e.motion.htm
Looks familiar :)
I havent got time now, maybe you want to see if they have green ones!
Andy 8)
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Thanks for the link Andy, the one shown does feature the same sort of markings, had a look through the site but couldn't find any others like mine but maybe its an older design but this seems to be the closest so far.
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OK finally managed to get mine photographed (sorry it took so long!)
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2 Years!!
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Whats 2 years between friends,
Cheers Anne
Andy
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Check the date of my post - I posted the pics two years ago Andy :P it's you who's replying two years later! :kissy:
I moved the topic into British from the depths of Glass whilst doing some Mod housekeeping earlier, so that's why you've been alerted to the topic I s'pose! :thup: Still, it's better late than never! 8)
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:-[
I wondered why it suddenly popped up again
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