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Regarding the engraving, Bickerton plate 230 shows a conical bowl, plain straight stem gin glass c.1740 with pretty much identical engraving to that on Laird’s. The quality of engraving also looks about the same from what I can see. Similar glass shown on Scottish antiques here: https://scottishantiques.com/Georgian-drinking-glasses/antique-gin-glass/?product_id=43464

Scottish antiques also have similar shapes to Laird’s dated mid 18th century for example: https://scottishantiques.com/Georgian-drinking-glasses/firing-dram-glass/port-glass-folded-foot/ and https://scottishantiques.com/Georgian-drinking-glasses/firing-dram-glass/?product_id=1011

Still not sure what makes one c.1810 and another c.1750. Laird, is the diameter of the foot larger than that of the rim?

There is no disaster recorded for Pegswood Colliery so perhaps there is another term more appropriate for the glass. Sadly there was no shortage of fatalities there during a long history:
http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/p004.htm

The disaster commemorated on the Hartley Colliery glass led to a significant change in law, the requirement of more than one exit from a mine.
https://co-curate.ncl.ac.uk/hartley-colliery-disaster-1862/

The Hartley glass reads Hartley Colliery Disaster January 16 1862 204 lives lost, engraved fern to back, 11cm tall.

Amazingly some complain about our Health and Safety regulations. Unfortunately those responsible for tragedy are rarely held to account, here Hillsborough and Grenfell spring straight to mind.

John

Here is another in Holmegaard's ice blue, the cut rims are original. Don't remember seeing another with an engraved design, guessing a freelance engraver.

John

Is she a mermaid with a a seal? Hitching a lift or?

I agree: the engraving looks very mid 20th C to me

Hello Paul, yes, as I believe Peter (oldglassman on this site) used to say - "if everything is right about a glass then it must be right". Peter, of course, is one of the most knowledgeable experts on Georgian glass alive today, and helped mentor me in my early days of trading in Georgian glass.  The glass in question meets all the criteria of a Georgian glass including rough pontil mark (although many were polished off by the date of this glass), grey metal, striations and other toolmarks from the use of pucellas, naive English wheel-engraving, imperfections in the metal, style (including bowl shape, stem formation and folded foot) and wear.  This style is also not uncommon as far as Georgian glasses are concerned e.g. this one on the Scottish Antiques site - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365054696383?_skw=georgian+dram+glass&itmmeta=01J85HFN95V272SYA72VCMVR0Z&hash=item54fef49bbf:g:n8AAAOSwZilmtHWo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKk7WlbYR1GSsPWl3%2FkLWAI2IGg5LYO%2BSAcBOqj01vTaKtA1ClRlJ2TJDa1b%2BYvnnFTALdBTXq8v5PDgQGZqx7y9lsmKLfU8s03F7kDFbDDv1FcnUXupbEEWfQTCuNoJMnuxxVapiXbk%2FeMxxba%2FYUYJMcbeU%2Bz01ECNNDb%2FfbTcjfpm%2FWIpXiv4Hf8D63KiqORFQeyIMglvDLl7LC7P46Ps2NzibqrPecg7YejBwC7q3ZS9oTpwgJNiWYdodO5ZgQmynWpDyZR2gmShgJeeCnzBfxBgQxVasuFMfsLo4iD93Q%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-LUvrHBZA - and is recognised as such.  Hopefully I've answered your question but please let me know if I have misunderstood what you were asking for. I'm always happy to help identify glass of this period in Peter's absence (hopefully temporarily) from the site.  The least I can do for all those who help me identify more modern glass.

One last point, folded feet were popular in the early to mid 18th century and then saw a resurgence in the early 19th from when this glass dates
 Kind regards