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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: valjk on October 21, 2012, 01:41:07 AM
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Hi, I'm new to glass collecting, and need help with some items from a mixed glass auction lot. This is a cute little vase, 7 cm high and 7.75 cm at its widest point at the top. The interior is ribbed and the outside is smooth. The "ears" are slightly lopsided! No pontil mark, but it has a raised rim at the base which looks like it might have been ground. Could this have been blown over a mould? I haven't been able to find anything resembling this shape despite looking at many images of vases in the last couple of weeks. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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A few have appeared on here. Sklo Union Hermanova Hut, Frantisek Vizner (I think :))
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Have these been id'd? I'll see if I can find the thread but I thought they were as yet un'id'd and not Czech :-\
m
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No id yet.
John
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m is right -- as far as I know still not identified (apart from being not Czech); they seem to appear almost exclusively in England...
edit: sorry, crossposting with John
Michael
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I don't have the links but I have seen these as ID'd as above. When I posted mine there was some debate as to being Czech. I shoulds have linked the site but as usual I didn't. As usual I will always bow to the more knowledgeable on here (there are a lot ;D)
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I've just done a very quick search for Sklo Union Hermanova Hut and spotted another vase with upward sweeping wings, and several different pieces in the same lime green colour as my vase, so will keep searching for Czech products unless it is ID'd otherwise. My other two posts may also be Bohemian/Czech, and I've spotted another item from my mixed lot which seems to be Sklo Union Hermanova Hut, so you've all sent me in a fruitful direction which I wouldn't have thought of myself. And I think now I really like Czech glass, the colours are so vibrant. What a wonderful glass website, so much expertise in one place, many thanks!
Valerie
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Valerie I think the feeling on this one is that it isn't Czech (ots of previous searching by lots ofpeople at various times on this one)- but searching Czech glass is a great way to see wonderful glass!
m
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m is right -- as far as I know still not identified (apart from being not Czech); they seem to appear almost exclusively in England...
Not quite. We see them here quite frequently. Not sure what the "not Czech" attribution is based upon.
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Ivo, yes, I'm not sure now :-\ about the probably not Czech bit.
link thread here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40554.msg224547.html#msg224547
and here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,45850.msg256651.html#msg256651
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Not sure what the "not Czech" attribution is based upon.
Because Jindrich said so ;) >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4391.msg167731.html#msg167731)
Colours are not right for Sklo Union either.
I have never seen one here in Central Europe (and I can't remember if I ever saw one on German ebay).
But my statement that they seem to appear almost exclusively in GB may not be correct.
Michael
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I think the colour is OK for Sklo Union. I've had a couple of post-war Czech pressed pieces which were in this shade of green.
I've seen a few of these vases here in Poland. My feeling is that they might be 60s or 70s Polish, but I haven't any proof.
One day, the answer will surely appear. :)
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Thanks for the info, Anik.
Polish sounds like a reasonable possibility...
When I mentioned the colours I was refering to this collection, which doesn't give me the right feeling for Sklo Union colours (especially that bluish purple) >> http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40554.msg224547.html#msg224547 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40554.msg224547.html#msg224547)
Michael
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Mine is the ink blue colour - I think it is the same :-\ it might be a little bit lighter/not so intense. If it is I would describe it is bright ink blue rather than blueish-purpleish, but I don't think I've come across another piece of Czech pressed glass in that colour - on the other hand isn't there an Adolf Matura ashtray in that bright blue thinking about it? or might it be Jablonecke? I might have another look around to see if I can find a match to that colour.
m
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Thanks to everyone for searching out all the past links to queries on this little vase shape. The mystery deepens . . . How come there are so many around, and so many wise heads have researched them, but still no positive id? I love fattystratty1's collection of different colours. Now I have another reason to attend car boot sales, maybe I'll find another one some day! I'm also intrigued by the process of manufacture; given the slight lop-sidedness of the side extensions, were these made individually, i.e. blown, or moulded? This puzzle seems to have been going on for years, but I hope it will soon be solved!
Thanks again,
Valerie
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They are factory pressed. What is the base like?
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mine is bird bath base with a polished (but scratched) rim.
m
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Not sure these are pressed, the interior walls bulge inwards towards the bottom on mine - not a plunger kind of shape.
John
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I've tried to photograph the base, but it's not easy! The base rim is polished (and chipped), and curves gently to a flat inner base. Like Glassobsessed mine has a curved inner surface which would make it difficult to use a plunger, since it goes in, bulges out towards the top of the "ears", then in again and finally out a bit at the bottom! (I think the photo I first posted shows the inner shape.) Such a little thing to provoke all this discussion, thank you all for your time!
Valerie
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In that case they are factory mould blown but that ground base puts them at pre full mechanisation, so no newer than perhaps early 1960s. Perhaps Jablonec; they made a lot of these small things.
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Just to add to the Czech/not Czech debate, I've just found this page on the 20thcenturyglass.com website, with three more of the mysterious little critters:
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/bohemian_glass/other_bohemian_glass.htm
Why so many colours? Where did they come from? What are they for? (They aren't a good shape for a bud vase.) Why doesn't anyone know for sure???
Valerie