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Title: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 07:58:09 AM

Hi, I have just spotted a few auctions which need confirmation.

1. The first one looks like a Whitefriars piece (left one) : http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=309640044

2. The second I have not seen before, possably Sweden or Finland? : http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=309678549

3. Don't think this is Whitefriars? : http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=309710366

4. Whitefriars? (looks good) : http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=309593932

Any thoughts would be appreciated before I bid on none/all?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: robert1960 on August 10, 2010, 08:45:41 AM

yes

Unsure.. but probably not Finnish, certainly not Riihimaki

No

90% certain

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 09:11:48 AM

HI, thanks for confirming No. 1 and 4, they are more along the line that I collect.

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 09:19:58 AM

I already have WF 9722 (K), do you think that No. 1 is pattern 9720 or 9721?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: robert1960 on August 10, 2010, 09:24:59 AM

Surely the 9720 ?

http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=311 (http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=311)

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 09:35:51 AM

Thx, I think your right, the one on auction looks like it has three obvious depressions on the rim, whereas the 9720 from the catalogue you can clearly see two...maybe it is just the angle of the pic? Am I right to presume these where only produced in 1969?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: vidrioguapo on August 10, 2010, 10:20:22 AM

I'm a bit suspicious of the bowl (no. 1)............the indents don't look right to me.
I can only find them in the 1969 catalogue made in Kingfisher and Tangerine.

Here's the catalogue page showing the three variations if you scroll down and I don't see any indents in the photographs............as you say, the photo s "iffy" and it IS possible some were made in Green (if it is green) - it may be Kingfisher which is a notoriously difficult colour to photograph right.

http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?pageNum_catalogue=1&totalRows_catalogue=222&id=311

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: robert1960 on August 10, 2010, 10:22:29 AM

Hi Emmi
It looked close to Kingfisher on my monitor- especially compared to the green next to it, and I assumed it was just an odd angle..

I could be wrong, of course.. it has been known ;)

[EDIT]  actually, now I look at it, the indents look more like traditional ashtray/ cigarette indents than the petal like indents on the Whitefriars pieces.. hmm.. yes, I'm, not certain either now...

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: vidrioguapo on August 10, 2010, 10:26:46 AM

You're probably right, I've had trouble with colours on my monitor before :spls:

But what about the indents........?  And I have seen Italian look a likes .........
They are indents aren't they, or am I seeing things?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 10:29:49 AM

I think the colour looks a bit odd because of the purple cloth underneath it?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: robert1960 on August 10, 2010, 10:31:20 AM

Emmi, Yes, you are right
 (I edited my post above)
 there are concave curves between the convex ones when there shouldn't be  :-*

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 10:35:07 AM

I Have also notice that the colour is not a perfect/good circle...as in it rides up the side a little unlike the one I have and the one from the cats, do you think this would occur?

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: robert1960 on August 10, 2010, 10:36:05 AM

I now think, like Emmi, that it probably isn't Whitefriars.

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: johnphilip on August 10, 2010, 10:42:46 AM

I second that as i have one the same , poss Murano .

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: vidrioguapo on August 10, 2010, 10:46:17 AM

Yes, I have just one from that range the 9722, and the Tangerine circle is perfect, so I too lean towards Italian............

Title: Re: Whitefriars and Swedish?
Post by: squizoid on August 10, 2010, 10:53:33 AM

Thanks for your replies, I also think it it is not, the depressions look to be rolled (as for an ashtray) and not upright as in the cats and my 9722. phew, you may have saved me some $. Keep up the good work. T.