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Title: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Walden on October 25, 2021, 05:01:52 PM

Does anyone know if the "made in ..." labels were ubiquitous, or did each company have their own design? I bought a trinket pot for one of the mystery sets and it had a Made in Czechoslovakia sticker on it. It also had another brand on the sticker I'm not familiar with. It looks like "L&H" not sure what that means..
Thanks

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: NevB on October 26, 2021, 01:13:58 PM

It might be an importers label, but whose I can't tell you.

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Anne on October 27, 2021, 02:41:30 AM

That's an interesting label, I don't recall seeing it before. Which mystery set did you find an example on Walden?

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Walden on October 27, 2021, 04:49:19 PM

Thanks Nev. Hi Anne. It is a pot for Mystery 121. I dont have the actual pot yet, but from the original photo it had this label and the remnant of a larger label that had been removed already. I enlarged the label to see if it could be identified. When i receive it I will see if i can get a more detailed photo

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Anne on October 27, 2021, 10:51:07 PM

Thanks Walden, I have long suspected this was a Czech set (gut feeling - very scientific - not!)  I'd be interested to see the label and remainder of same when you get the pot...  sometimes even the remnants can help with an ID. (I recall identifying my decanter from the glue residue left on the glass by a label that had come off it.)

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: NevB on October 29, 2021, 12:55:36 PM

Pamela has the posy vase from this set in the Reich section here:

https://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/1reich/reich.html

The candlesticks also look similar to other Reich patterns.

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Anne on October 29, 2021, 08:44:32 PM

Reich is what I suspect too, I'll go rummage through more references and see if I can prove it. :)

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: NevB on October 30, 2021, 09:19:54 AM

I couldn't find anything in the catalogues to confirm it Anne, there are other sets online but no definite attribution.

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Walden on November 02, 2021, 03:09:05 PM

I hope have some success Anne!
The ribbing on the posy vase is extremely similar to the ribbing in the 8877 Reich candlesticks. I initially thought they might be from the same set. I'll send a photo when I get a chance.
Do we know if the molds used by Sam Reich's company made in house? I think a time machine might help here..

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Anne on November 02, 2021, 08:36:31 PM

Hi Walden, I don't know but molds are something we need to explore in more detail, as I'm pretty sure that the same molds were bought by different glasshouses, which could explain why, for instance, we see Bagley State and Libochovice 1880-1884 pieces that appear identical. Some glasshouses seem to have made all their own molds, others bought them in, whilst yet others made some and bought others. I'm going to add a section to the GTS website about moldmakers shortly.

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Walden on November 02, 2021, 11:06:03 PM

Thanks Anne. I look forward to seeing what you have discovered. :)

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Walden on December 19, 2021, 10:28:37 PM

Probably not much more information than i had already provided, here are a couple of photos of the label for mystery 121 small amber trinket pot. Anne, as always, you are welcome to use my photos if you find them useful

Title: Re: Made in Czechoslovakia label.
Post by: Jayne on August 25, 2022, 07:42:28 PM

Simba also suspected the set to be Reich here:

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49599.msg351915.html#msg351915

The candlestick bases are also reminiscent of other Reich set bases e.g. Pattern 8877 round version although 8877 is larger, Pattern 8957 and Pattern 8975.