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Title: Heavy smoke-brown vase with internal bands and bubbles -- ID = Schott-Zwiesel
Post by: rocco on April 04, 2011, 03:43:22 PM

Quite heavy glass vase, smokey brown colour, clear base, internally decorated with 2 crossing brown bands (1 reddish-brown, other greenish brown) and some big bubbles. Shiny base with polished pontil mark. Height 19 cm.

I think this is German, I remember vaguely seeing a similar one with a label...
Zwiesel? Gral Glas?...?

Thanks for looking!
Michael

Title: Re: Heavy smoke-brown vase with internal bands and bubbles -- German?
Post by: rocco on April 24, 2011, 02:07:17 PM

I went past a small antique shop yesterday where I go infrequently, and look what I saw in the shop window...
(Well, now I know where I had seen this nice vase before ;D)

So this is definately Schott-Zwiesel from the 70ies.
What I still don't know is who designed it -- any suggestions?

Thanks,
Michael

Title: Re: Heavy smoke-brown vase with internal bands and bubbles -- German?
Post by: astrid on April 24, 2011, 05:51:57 PM

Well, Heinrich Löffelhardt was their main designer in that period. Many sellers attribute anything and everything from that period to Löffelhardt (like they used to attribute any bit of Gral glas to Habermeier, which turned out to be wrong also) - without a good reference source, it's basically guesswork. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that Helmut Ricke will write or organize more books on German glassworks from that period. Peill, Hirschberg, Zwiesel - just naming a few potential source books I'd happily add to my collection.

Astrid

Title: Re: Heavy smoke-brown vase with internal bands and bubbles -- German?
Post by: dirk. on April 24, 2011, 08:38:03 PM

Ditto, Astrid!  :)

Title: Re: Heavy smoke-brown vase with internal bands and bubbles -- German?
Post by: rocco on April 24, 2011, 09:30:52 PM

Thank you very much, Dirk and Astrid!
The Gralglas book is already on the wishlist for my next birthday...

Regarding the Zwiesel vase: I looked in to my favourite glass book again, '20th century factory glass' by Lesley Jackson, and as usual I am surprised by the profound information found in it (but too few pics).
"... In 1972 the factory changed its name to Schott-Zwiesel-Glaswerke AG. From this date designs were marketed anonymously as Atelier Schott-Zwiesel, although most were designed by Wilhelm Kuchler until his retirement in 1986. During the early 1970s Kuchler oversaw the development of a range of hand-made art glass, including ... vases decorated with thick, treacly bands or streaks of blue and green glass."

So my vase was made post 1972, and Wilhelm Kuchler "oversaw" the designs during that time...

Greetings,
Michael