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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: Anne E.B. on January 26, 2007, 09:14:06 PM
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Two new acquisitions. The first, a large footed bowl has been driving me nuts. I've seen it attributed to .....? but can't for the life of me remember who. For some reason I'm thinking its Scandinavian. Not too sure whether this can be described as candlewick or not, but for the want of a better description....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/miscel-36.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/miscel-37.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/miscel-38.jpg
The second is a light shade which reminds me of the footed bowl. It has a similar textured surface - and 'balls'. I don't suppose there is any link other than it being a popular style at one time - but you never know :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/miscel-39.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/miscel-40.jpg
TIA for your help ;D
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I have two pieces in what appears to be the same pattern as t'other Anne's footed dish: a covered pot and a footed sundae. Both are marked on the base - moulded into the glass - ITALY and a number (sundae = ITALY 13, lidded pot = ITALY 97).
I bought the pot first and couldn't find any marks on it at all, then found the sundae which is clearly marked, and have just tonight after taking quick pics of them for you to see found the mark on the lidded pot! Because it blends into the textured glass it's not easy to see and I only spotted it as I held it up in front of the light from the PC monitor. ::)
Anyhow, pics are here for you to compare:
Sundae dish & closeups
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4726
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4725
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4724
Lidded pot & closeups
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4728
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4727
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4729
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Thanks for your comments and help everyone :) Much appreciated.
A bit of a turn up for the books Anne - Italian - would never have guessed :o
It is identical to the lidded bowl that you have. I've had a good look to see if there is a mark, but it's like looking for a needle in a haystack! There might be one lurking somewhere, but I can't spot it. I think it's got some age - at a guess c.50s give or take...
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Hi Anne, I had a heck of a job seeing the mark on this bowl! If you look at yours, in the centre of the base there's a clear circle - hold the piece up to the light and peer closely at that circle as I bet that's where the mark will be if at all. (It's where mine is.) If you just look at it normally you can't see it, but held up against a light and it shows up. I've had my bowl for months and have only just found the mark despite checking several times! ::)
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Pretty sure these are Fidenza, I remember having seen the matching stick vase thus marked. And Fidenza are not Videnza - I think they may be one of the Bormioli plants, but the whole thing is a bit embrouillé (which is a chique word for foggy)
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... but the whole thing is a bit embrouillé (which is a chique word for foggy)
I'm liking that a lot Ivo - I'm wondering how many conversations I can crow-bar the word 'embroille' into ;D (sorry couldn't find the e accent on my symbols).
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... but the whole thing is a bit embrouillé (which is a chique word for foggy)
I'm liking that a lot Ivo - I'm wondering how many conversations I can crow-bar the word 'embroille' into ;D (sorry couldn't find the e accent on my symbols).
Easier to use the English embroil I would think.....but not so chic!! ;D
embroil verb (embroiled, embroiling) 1 to involve in a dispute or argument. 2 to throw into a state of confusion. embroilment noun embroiling; uproar; commotion.
ETYMOLOGY: 17c: from French embrouiller to throw into confusion.
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"Embrouille" I like it. Kind of sums up my natural state of being ;D
Lordy! I don't know what the neighbours will be thinking of me. Spent absolutely ages stood in the front window with my head in the bowl looking for marks. Nothing but minute air bubbles I'm afraid - and a lot of explaining to do ;)
Thanks everyone for your input.
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and finally a name for this pattern:
Barocco (http://cgi.ebay.de/Barocco-Bombonniere-mit-Deckel_W0QQitemZ300293444303QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDekorationsmaterial?hash=item300293444303&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318)
(and for those who read the description, please don´t ask me, what a ´Bomonnierre´ is ;D)
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A lidded bowl to keep your Bomons in of course. ;)
Great finding a boxed one, Dirk, thank you! :kissy: Another mystery solved!
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Taking my courage in both hands and enlisting the aid of FreeTran to turn my English question into German, I emailed the seller and asked if there was a maker's name and/or country on the box. This is his reply just in: "warde sagen firma a. masserini- made in italy!" - the company name says A Masserini, Made in Italy.
Now we need to know who A Masserini is/are... I can't find a mention in Ivo's Glass Fact File, but did find a completed listing on eBay Australia for a different design which stated A Masserini, Milano, Italy. Ivo, are they a part of the Bormioli group?
Or has anyone else heard of them before? (Googling for Masserini Milan brings up various companies, none of whom appear to be glassmakers.)
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well done, Anne. should have thought of that myself! ::)
feel free to contact me, whenever you need to contact a german speaking seller!
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Thanks Dirk, I'll bear that in mind for the next time. ;) Though it is good for me to practice as German has always defeated me before, so sending a message, being understood and getting a reply is encouraging! 8)
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I did a google and come up with lots of Masserinis in San Giovanno Valdarno - coicidentally the location of one of the largest glass industries in Italy now going by the name of IVV - Industria Vetreria Valdarnese.
see here http://ivvnet.alphac.it/index.php
and here http://www.nouvie.nl/content/41IVV.asp
I suggest you download the 60 page fall/ winter catalogue (second link) and learn about all these textured plates and pressed items that are so familiar but you never could place. I am pretty sure the Masserini sugar was made there - though not in recent years. Consolidation of the different glassworks took a long time, incidentally. I have a vague feeling that moulds have been passed on and similar items are now being manufactured in Turkey and/or Indonesia.
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Ivo: Thanks for the references to the IVV catalogues. Very helpful!
David
PS Just checked where IVV is on Google Earth and I was about four miles away in October, at the Prada store (an equal time for spousal interests bargain). I could have been at IVV and left my wife alone at the Prada store. On second thoughts, not a good idea.
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Some Masserini pictures taken at a fleamarket this morning. Appears it was based in Abbiategrasso
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Angelo Masserini from Abbiategrasso (MI) was the owner for some years of the glass furnace in Altare (SV) named S.A.V. an existing glass factory nearly bankrupted and changed the name in Savam.
This from 1978 to 1992 when SAVAM went into Vetreria Etrusca.
So this could be a Altare made (machine made) item
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Taking my courage in both hands and enlisting the aid of FreeTran to turn my English question into German, I emailed the seller and asked if there was a maker's name and/or country on the box. This is his reply just in: "warde sagen firma a. masserini- made in italy!" - the company name says A Masserini, Made in Italy.
Now we need to know who A Masserini is/are... I can't find a mention in Ivo's Glass Fact File, but did find a completed listing on eBay Australia for a different design which stated A Masserini, Milano, Italy. Ivo, are they a part of the Bormioli group?
Or has anyone else heard of them before? (Googling for Masserini Milan brings up various companies, none of whom appear to be glassmakers.)