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Title: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: Roger H on September 08, 2011, 07:53:36 PM

      Hi all, picked this up recently at a very affordable price. PAUL GERMAIN on a swirled large frit ground.
   First impression was bohemian/ german/silecia/ thuringia. Then I turned it over and it has a hollow ground base. Did research on the name and America came up mostly but any period from late nineteenth to present time. The weight is decent clear glass with a slight tinge of mauve. Diameter is 3.15 inches.
      The good hollow ground base took me to American paperweights again but I cannot get any further at the moment, any ideas? Roger.

Title: Re: Paul Germain weight ID
Post by: Roger H on September 15, 2011, 09:34:19 PM

    Hello,is there anybody there, perhaps an American older weight collector. One other small point, there is a small amount of goldstone in the frit. Roger.

Title: Probable older American weight with name inside/ do you agree?
Post by: Roger H on September 18, 2011, 09:41:37 PM

        This seems to be a difficult one for anybody to ID so I have changed the title to hopefully spark some ideas,surely there must be someone who can throw some light on the origins of this weight? Regards Roger.

Title: Re: Paul Germain weight
Post by: mildawg on September 19, 2011, 08:34:32 PM

I think the best you might get on this one is "somewhere in the mid-west".  Likely Indiana, Ohio, W. Virginia, or neighboring states.  The colors appear to be consistent with some other mid-west makers.

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: KevinH on September 19, 2011, 09:28:02 PM

Roger, only a moderator can change the actual thread title - which I have now done. When you change a title of an individual post (as part your own posting - or edit within 1hr), it is not seen as the thread title so readers may not notice it.

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: Roger H on September 20, 2011, 08:51:09 AM

   Thanks Kev, realized only after I did it that it would not work. Thought my title would give the impression it was made by Paul Germain so I tried to change it. Regards Roger.

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: Roger H on September 30, 2011, 10:15:15 PM

       Hello, recently talking to a very knowledgeable gent at cambridge glass fair, showed him the weight and he suggested firmly Belgium as origination. Dont forget the goldstone in the frit ground. Regards Roger.

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: Roger H on November 02, 2011, 10:53:52 AM

     Hi there, have posted a much better angled base photo which now shows the quality ground out pontil area. Does this help with any more definite attribution.  Still edging toward "Union Glass" massachusetts area myself.
       Regards Roger.

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: paperweights on November 02, 2011, 11:50:28 PM

I've never seen a Union Glass (Somerville, Massachusetts) paperweight with a ground like that and the name only.  Usually there are flowers or flags or both in addition to the name and possibly a date.  There are some that have only a flower, no name or date. 

Also, normally Union weights are flat on the bottom, not concave.  And they are normally larger, over 3 1/2" diameter.  But the bottom could have been finished later. 

I have two Union Glass weights on my antiques page if you want to compare the style of the lettering.

http://paperweights.com/antique.htm (http://paperweights.com/antique.htm)

Title: Re: American? Paul Germain name weight.
Post by: Roger H on November 03, 2011, 11:26:39 AM

     Thanks Allan,can see what you mean, size, ground subject, profile, base really do not fit very well at all . Its just that the name Paul Germain comes up in America quite a lot over the last century.
      Mildawg suggested somewhere in the mid-west of America, perhaps that is as close as I can get if it is American. I would like to sell it but without a positive attribution there is not much interest.
        Regards Roger.