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Title: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: josordoni on March 05, 2007, 07:34:42 PM
I bought this today at auction - here is the link, I'll take some more pics in the morning, but for the moment, I wondered if anyone had ever seen anything similar? 

The monkeys are frosted, the rest cut/moulded (not 100% sure which at the moment, but  moulded is probable) with a star base.

http://www.reeman-dansie-auctions.co.uk/auction_lot_details.php?auction=6714&lot=99
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: Tigerchips on March 05, 2007, 08:08:50 PM
The only thing I can think of with monkeys on it is early Sowerby like these.
http://www.pressedintime.com/sowerby.htm

But it's probably something else.  ::)
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: Tigerchips on March 05, 2007, 09:42:56 PM
George Duncan & Sons also made a Monkey pattern, not the same though.
http://www.nmgcs.org/photo_gallery/gallery2/
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: josordoni on March 05, 2007, 10:37:38 PM
I want the Cambridge and Co Monkey light... lovely!!

But no, not my pot yet... ::)

I took a bit of a chance and just bought it as it wasn't expensive.   8)
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: Sid on March 06, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
Hello:

Your jar was made by either Baccarat or S. Reich.  Have a look at the bottom left corner of the catalogue page shown on page 8 of this Pressglas Korrespondenz document. 

http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/archiv/pdf/pk-2006-4w.pdf

This is a Reich catalog circa 1880 but just about everything on this page was shown in a Baccarat catalog some 10 years later . Your lid is likely a replacement for a lost original which was a sitting monkey.

By the way, it is pretty well certain that Geo. Duncan & Sons did not make the EAPG Monkey pattern.  The maker is as yet unknown.

Edited to get details correct

Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: Ohio on March 06, 2007, 05:06:52 AM
Lynn if you like the Cambridge Monkey Lamp...I owned this for 10 years...the only crystal Cambridge Monkey to ever exist. It was a test piece & it appears in the Cambridge archieves that states mould maker Dan Slay shows the Monkey lamp to Arthur Bennet. The bottom was sheared & the base was not ground, the lamp base was never punched plus the globe had minute metal shavings...the poured it in crystal to test the mould. My one claim to fame as it were. Ken

http://www.glasstreasurechest.com/catalog/images/monkeyoutside.jpg
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot - S REICH
Post by: josordoni on March 17, 2007, 03:07:54 PM
Here he is in all his glory, sorry to take so long with the pictures...I have too much glass at the moment it would seem (I know, you can never have too much glass...sigh  ::) ). This is my own gallery so it is easy to click and supersize, I have also popped a couple of pics onto my gallery in the Glass Gallery so they don't get lost.

Monkey Pot - my gallery (http://clarkagency.co.uk/clicpicmarch/monkey_barrel/_local_monkey_barrel.htm)
Glass Gallery pictures (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5698)

I assume if it were the later Baccarat that there would be a signature somewhere?  I have looked all over it, and can't find anything.  It is mould made - I can just see little mould lines on the rim and base, but they have been very well fettled. 

What a shame it doesn't have its original lid. The one in the Pressglaz catalogue looked so very impressive. Thank you very much Sid.

Ken, I think your claim to fame is very impressive !  (and I'm not easily impressed  ;D)



Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: Ohio on March 17, 2007, 04:10:01 PM
josordoni: Thats a nice piece & highly unusual. Yes the Cambridge piece was a once in a lifetime find & I hated to part with him after 8 years, but I got a Godfather offer (the kind you cannot refuse) & my wife informed me she would have me committed to a mental institution if I didn't accept it so I figured it was in the best interests of all concerned (after 37 years of marriage) that I parted with it...she always said it had to have been one of the more ugly pieces of glass ever produced.  Ken
Title: Re: Old frosted monkey pot
Post by: josordoni on March 18, 2007, 09:23:01 PM
josordoni: Thats a nice piece & highly unusual. Yes the Cambridge piece was a once in a lifetime find & I hated to part with him after 8 years, but I got a Godfather offer (the kind you cannot refuse) & my wife informed me she would have me committed to a mental institution if I didn't accept it so I figured it was in the best interests of all concerned (after 37 years of marriage) that I parted with it...she always said it had to have been one of the more ugly pieces of glass ever produced.  Ken

Goodness! what does your lovely wife have against monkeys???

at least you had the pleasure of him for 8 years... :)