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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: mhgcgolfclub on March 13, 2007, 04:09:04 PM
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I bought this opalescent Lion today, it is unmarked , it measures 6" in length and 3.75" tall and weighs 858 gms, I am sure it does have some age with some wear to base and it has a little damage chipped ear and minor chips to base
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/th_1bed1.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/1bed1.jpg)
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many thanks mhgcgolfclub Roy
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Despite the clipped ear - bravo! Very good find. I think it is Derbyshire - but I'm sure you will be told in detail what when and how.
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Hi Ivo
I,ve collected and sold lots of Derbyshire and would say a no to Derbyshire, I have several Derbyshire lions and although very similar the base is wrong even for the derbyshire cross paws lion, this is on a retangle base where Derbshires are oval my gut feeling says French , hope I find out later
thanks roy
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I may be way off the mark but what about Burtles and Tate?
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No its not Burtles and Tate, and I would go as far as to say not British, European or American ?, as to age not sure but do not think Victorian although I could be wrong 1930 /50's just a guess on my part may turn out to be older or newer than that
Roy
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A frosted one too. :o
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/03525.html
Pamela, it may be my eyes but it looks as though your lion has some kind of writing on the side of the base?
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Thanks Tigerchips
I can see what you mean about looks like some writing on side, there is none on mine, so its still an unknown
thanks for your help Roy
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Have you thought of Labino glass?
I dont know muh about them, but always see birds in the same opalescent color when I do searches on Murano.
At least is a new lead?
Javier
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http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5626
The image above is of a similar, but frosted, Lion which is of the same general size as Roy's and has a rectangular foot. Maker is unknown but I strongly suspect French as this one has a raised inmressed mark "ROBIN" to two sides of the base.
I took the photo a few years ago for a friend who owns the piece and I tried to research the "ROBIN" mark. The closest I came was that this was a French term used by chemists and was likely to have been around the 1950s.
The Lion may have been a top to a rectangular chemist jar.
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Ebay item:290091045384 also apparently appears in opalescent here in France.
Robin were a drugs company.
regards,
Marcus
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What about Andre hunebelle? he gave up glass after the war, and became a film producer.
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For confirmation:
Marcus's link to the eBay item jogged my memory. My friend's Lion was also marked in the same way: "Sulfoidol ROBIN" to one side and "Iodone ROBIN" to the other. I am fairly sure that the eBay listing should say "iodone" instead of "nodone".
When I searched for information way back whenever, I found references to the Robin company which is where I got my 1950s date from. But current searches have not found the info this time.
I had also consulted another friend whose son works in the pharmaceutical imdustry and was for several years based in France. Unfortunately, no extra information was found.
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Almost a crossed thread with the D'Avesn thread
Not in Sabino book nor Hunebelle book nor Jobling - don't think its Ferjac or Cersari they are usually signed
but with an obscure signature like that
Most likely made by Choisy Le Roi if its pre War
or post war -same factory- but now owned by Sevres.
They made such pieces for anyone who commisioned them.
What a wonderful piece never seen an opalescent one before
Cheers
M
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I think there is a crossed wire here, if we go back to Roy's first post he said his wasn't marked.
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Not being marked does not matter as the mould probably included replaceable panels for adding customised lettering if required, as with bottles. It certainly looks to be the same mould as Pamela's.
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Thanks for all the help on this Lion, its been very interesting, so it was made in France which was my best guess, but still some doubt as to the exact maker
thanks again for all your help
regards roy