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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: mrvaselineglass on March 20, 2007, 11:42:44 PM
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Hello all
I just recently got a new piece to add to my Davidson No. 269 suite collection. It is the oval bowl on the right side. The frame came from a clear version of this pattern and I added the vaseline bowl. The center bowl? the silverplate/chrome ring is attached to the bottom of the bowl.
http://www.vaselineglass.org/david269trio.jpg (http://www.vaselineglass.org/david269trio.jpg)
p.s. I am still looking for a piece in this pattern with an opalescent rim. I know they exist, as I have a photo of one of the small round bowls, but so far, none have surfaced on ebay or other markets. The hunt goes on!
Dave Peterson
aka: Mr. Vaseline Glass
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I just recently got a new piece to add to my Davidson No. 269 suite collection.
Hey, I think my mothe had some Davidson glass. Not vaseline, but I know she had a bowl just like these (on the left and right) The silver holder was a little different, but I vividly remember the bowl and the spoon hanging down. Hmmm, wonder what happened to it when the evil step-mother came into our lives. Used to use it for cranberry sauce whenever we had turkey ;D
Carolyn
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Hi Carolyn,
Did you have one of those evil stepmother's too!!!
Love the new addition Dave,
and you never know, one of the 269 with opalescent rim may tuen up in ozland!
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Beryl, If you spot any 269 in Oz look at it really carefully... but read these earlier topics first to find out why...
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9127.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9296.0.html
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Hi Anne,
Yes, I remember reading that post, but now it is in the fore of my mind again.
We seem to have a massive amount of Modern Chinese glass turning up here in Australia. All we can do is learn as much as we can and share our knowledge.
Thanks for the reminder
Beryl
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Hi,
I have not got a 269 piece in Pearline, but have an equally rare piece in Jade.
Also have a 269 bowl in Amberina, but I'm coming to the conclusion that it may not be a Davidson piece.
Regards
Chris
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Did you have one of those evil stepmother's too!!!
Yup, but I had already found my prince charming. Shoe wouldn't have fit anyways. I have very small feet ;) :) The woman in question married my dad, when he was still crazy with loneliness, convinced him a few years later to move to Florida and that they should sell everything. Just after they found out that the move would not be able to go forward, he was killed in a vehicle collision. But everything was gone, leaving us with no parents, no family belongings and she dropped us like hot potatoes, so not even an evil step mother!
Carolyn
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Oh I am so jealous, Dave. I have never seen a vaseline 269 bowl "in the flesh"(nor pearline). This would have to be one of my favourite patterns (childhood memories of my Nanna's place). I would give my right arm for one in vaseline but I don't think the smart UK collectors let them out of the country!!
Chris, I have seen an amberina one. Can I ask why you feel yours might not be Davidson? Is it just yours or amberina in general? Just trying to learn so I don't get burned ;)
Do either of you have your collections on the net so I may have a look and drool?
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DEE
Here is a peek at about 1/2 of my collection. There are 3 or 4 pieces in the photo that are not uranium/vaseline glass. The rest all glow under a UV blacklight.
http://www.vaselineglass.org/GLASSSHELVES.JPG (http://www.vaselineglass.org/GLASSSHELVES.JPG)
Enjoy
Dave
aka: Mr. Vaseline Glass
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Hi Dee,
There are two reasons why I think my Amberina 269 bowl is not by Davidson. Firstly all other examples of the 269 pattern have a toothed decorative band on either side of the prunts. This bowl only has one. Secondly The angle of the prunts with respect to the body of the piece is different. On other 269 examples the prunts are almost perpendicular to the surface. On the amberina example they are at much more of an angle.
I have seen one other exmple of Davidson amberina (Bernard can you remember what style it was?), so I do think Davidson did some experimentation, most likely post war.
Regards
Chris
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Thanks Dave, your collection must be amazing if thats about half of it. I am so jealous!
Chris, I have a flint bowl about 6 inches across on a chrome stand that I have wondered about. It sounds like it was made by the same people as your amberina bowl. When you look inside it the prunts are more oval than round. They are also on an odd angle. Mine has only one band, above the prunts. Above that is frosted. Also the fluted edge seems sharper - not flowing - like it was made with a knife pushed down on the hot glass. I know that sounds silly but its the best way I can describe it. I guess pinched would be the word for it instead of fluted or ruffled.
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Hi Dee,
It sounds fascinating! I'd love to see a picture, when you have the chance.
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For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about - this discussion started in Dave's topic "New piece to my Davidson No. 269 vaseline collection "
Mod: photo's uploaded to GlassGallery:
Here are the pics of my flint 269 bowl.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6107 Bottom
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6106 Edge
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6105 Unusual prunts
And a jug you might like to see Cathy....
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6104
It has "From The Entrance" painted on the foot.
Mod: Link to further information on this jug:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,12283.msg84811.html#msg84811
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Count the points on your prunts please. If there are only 6, it's possibly a Chinese copy, albeit an old one. See this message here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9127.msg77216.html#msg77216) and here (http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/MysteryComport.html). Today I saw a two interconnected dishes (like a cakestand, but they weren't plates) that looked like Davidson 269, except the flutes were sharp like yours and the frosted bit was textured rather than frosted but I didn't have time to count the prunts. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Davidson. I may have to go back and get counting
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Sorry Christine, I should have thought of that as I have read the other posts.
Just checked and it only has six points. I would to go and have a chat with the antique dealer I bought it off but last time we went past they were closed down. :( Oh well, we live and learn I guess.
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Don't apologise. Plagarism seems to have been rife, and probably still is, in the glass industry in the 20th century and Glen has only just worked this mystery out (as far as she can). Your piece is a similar vintage to the Davidson pieces and possibly less easy to find.
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I've had this piece knocking around in the shed for years. It's vaseline, about 5" across and I assume it's a Davidson 269 - it has 7 bobbles on the prunts. This one has 'Made in England' stamped into the base though. Do they all have that? I haven't seen mention of it so far. :-\
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6109
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6108
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Max: My small round bowl has the same marking. The small oval has no marking, nor does the larger bowl with the clamped on base. I also have two small oval bowls in clear, and one of those has a gold paper label, MADE IN ENGLAND. both of the small bowls were purchased without the marmalade EPNS frames and then I found the marmalades with the clear bowls in ebay auctions, and just swapped them out. I use the clear versions (now with no frames) for candy or pocket change.
Mr. Vaseline Glass
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Thank you MrVaselineGlass :D Just a quirk then. Shame, I thought I had something unusual...no wonder it's been in the shed for years! It was a gift from my ex-Mother-in-Law about 12 years ago so it's got some sentimental value anyway. :) :)
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Max
It is a nice bowl! Hope there are good memories for your ex-MIL. If you ever see one of the little dishes (in clear) on ebay with a frame, you can usually pick them up fairly cheap (like a fiver) and then swap out the clear for the vaseline bowl. I find they even come with the original EPNS spoon sometimes!
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Not a bad idea. :) Yet another thing to look for then! Thanks for your help. :-*